Under 25 And Balding, What Cures Are You Looking Forward To?

[sunchyme1]

DEATH

xander wassup man whats going on?

 

[Dar]

If you look back 10 years or more on this site, there are similar hopes and dreams from users. Nothing yet. I remember when I was 20 back in 1990 there was an article that said a cure 5-10 years. It's always the same thing guys. Just because we have the internet to discuss stuff all day long, doesn't mean a cure for anything is close at hand. This current generation may be the gotta have it now generation due to said internet but unfortunately that is just not so with a cure of any kind. Gurantee people will be posting the same query's 5-10,20 etc years from now.

 

[vernon]

If you look back 10 years or more on this site, there are similar hopes and dreams from users. Nothing yet. I remember when I was 20 back in 1990 there was an article that said a cure 5-10 years. It's always the same thing guys. Just because we have the internet to discuss stuff all day long, doesn't mean a cure for anything is close at hand. This current generation may be the gotta have it now generation due to said internet but unfortunately that is just not so with a cure of any kind. Gurantee people will be posting the same query's 5-10,20 etc years from now.

True unfortunately.

Just today I ran into a post on another forum where someone advised people to stay away from finasteride because cloning will be a common procedure within 2-3 years. Date of post: february 2006.

 

[Dar]

True unfortunately.

Just today I ran into a post on another forum where someone advised people to stay away from finasteride because cloning will be a common procedure within 2-3 years. Date of post: february 2006.

Lol...that's a great example.

 

[Bf20]

Lol...that's a great example.

I would have to disagree with you.We have companies worth billions investing in this to come true , trusted companies like shiseido and RIKEN (riken recently official discovered like 113th element ) working with doctor tsuji'S team.There is also Replicel which is already showing decent result, not to name all the other big companies working on cloning and other methods to get our hair fully back.

 

[H]

If you look back 10 years or more on this site, there are similar hopes and dreams from users. Nothing yet. I remember when I was 20 back in 1990 there was an article that said a cure 5-10 years. It's always the same thing guys. Just because we have the internet to discuss stuff all day long, doesn't mean a cure for anything is close at hand. This current generation may be the gotta have it now generation due to said internet but unfortunately that is just not so with a cure of any kind. Gurantee people will be posting the same query's 5-10,20 etc years from now.

While I am starting to doubt all of these treatments i admit, im going to call you out and say you don't wholly believe that statement though lol. Your just saying it to get a reaction out of onlookers for attention. If you truly believed that you wouldn't come to this site period. If by your opinion nothings coming within 20 years why linger? If your trying to help us all face reality and move on your being severely counterproductive because all this post has suggested is that you never got over balding yourself and still have hope for a treatment unless somehow checking this site makes you shed less? I'd be careful acting as if you've seen this revelation that no one else has...

 

[Dar]

While I am starting to doubt all of these treatments i admit, im going to call you out and say you don't wholly believe that statement though lol. Your just saying it to get a reaction out of onlookers for attention. If you truly believed that you wouldn't come to this site period. If by your opinion nothings coming within 20 years why linger? If your trying to help us all face reality and move on your being severely counterproductive because all this post has suggested is that you never got over balding yourself and still have hope for a treatment unless somehow checking this site makes you shed less? I'd be careful acting as if you've seen this revelation that no one else has...

It's an opinion and I am allowed to have that here. I really do not think anything will come of a cure. The best we will see imo is improved treatments to maintain and better transplants. ( that's what I look forward to hearing and that's why I visit from time to time) Which isn't a bad thing. But from many of the comments I see with wanting 100% of their hair back etc....not gonna happen in the near future. I have heard all the same stuff since I was a kid. It's disheartening to hear every new generation panic. The great thing is that with age comes wisdom and acceptance of the aging process. We should all do the best we can though to maintain our health and appearance as best we can.

But this whole thread is nothing different than the 20 and 30 something years olds discussing and hoping 10-12 years ago. We had sure things than to only to be disappointed when the companies floundered. So when I see threads like this I feel I can comment. If it bothers you don't read it....

 

[Dar]

Everyone on star trek was bald so the future doesnt look bright. Even then male pattern baldness is exactly like it is today

Star Trek isn't real...

 

[H]

It's an opinion and I am allowed to have that here. I really do not think anything will come of a cure. The best we will see imo is improved treatments to maintain and better transplants. ( that's what I look forward to hearing and that's why I visit from time to time) Which isn't a bad thing. But from many of the comments I see with wanting 100% of their hair back etc....not gonna happen in the near future. I have heard all the same stuff since I was a kid. It's disheartening to hear every new generation panic. The great thing is that with age comes wisdom and acceptance of the aging process. We should all do the best we can though to maintain our health and appearance as best we can.

But this whole thread is nothing different than the 20 and 30 something years olds discussing and hoping 10-12 years ago. We had sure things than to only to be disappointed when the companies floundered. So when I see threads like this I feel I can comment. If it bothers you don't read it....

If you don't like reading about people complaining about hair loss and wanting all their hair back i believe this probably isn't the site for you...

 

[abcdefg]

True unfortunately.

Just today I ran into a post on another forum where someone advised people to stay away from finasteride because cloning will be a common procedure within 2-3 years. Date of post: february 2006.

So true. I hate be so pessimistic, but that viewpoint just feels more realistic over time. I remember being like 20 with amazing hair, and I thought man if I started going bald in a few years im sure there will be something safer and better than finasteride by then because i didnt want to try it. Im 35 now, and debating trying finasteride because I am just realizing there might not be anything better in my life time. All this stuff moves so slowly, and a lot of it never materializes.
CB 03 01 and ascj 9 were talked about like 10+ years ago. Ascj 9 was like cb and got cancelled. CB 03 01 aka breezula isnt out until 2021? Its going to take 20 years to hopefully see a new thing that works about the same as finasteride.

 

[gimmiehairorgimmiedeath]

So true. I hate be so pessimistic, but that viewpoint just feels more realistic over time. I remember being like 20 with amazing hair, and I thought man if I started going bald in a few years im sure there will be something safer and better than finasteride by then because i didnt want to try it. Im 35 now, and debating trying finasteride because I am just realizing there might not be anything better in my life time. All this stuff moves so slowly, and a lot of it never materializes.
CB 03 01 and ascj 9 were talked about like 10+ years ago. Ascj 9 was like cb and got cancelled. CB 03 01 aka breezula isnt out until 2021? Its going to take 20 years to hopefully see a new thing that works about the same as finasteride.

Dude, replicel already showed efficacy in halting loss for 2 years, it's in phase 2 right now with shiseido. The past is the past, look at the present.

 

[Dar]

If you don't like reading about people complaining about hair loss and wanting all their hair back i believe this probably isn't the site for you...

Again we can go round and round with this but I am welcome to my opinion. I mentioned nothing about complaining. I can have an opinion on an opinion of an opinion etc. You as well. But given the history of "cures" and treatments over the last 25-30 years I'm pretty confident there will not be a cure all for decades to come. Not much has been cured (if anything) in regards to aging. I just don't see it.

 

[Endmymisery]

Dude, replicel already showed efficacy in halting loss for 2 years, it's in phase 2 right now with shiseido. The past is the past, look at the present.

Hmm wasn't stabilization observed for 5 years? And only the regrowth was gone in 2 years but the native hairs were still stabilized? I might be wrong tho, enlighten me if you know more

 

[Magma]

If the best thing they have upcoming is donor hair multiplication, I can't see why anyone would be excited about that or consider it a cure. For the right people, this might be a "cure", but for most people hair transplants look completely unnatural and underwhelming not to mention the huge cost factor that would be associated with successive transplants even if there are unlimited donor hair.

 

[That Guy]

RepliCel has positive results with Shiseido set to end their last mandatory trial next year, Follica is probably the closest, and...

If the best thing they have upcoming is donor hair multiplication, I can't see why anyone would be excited about that or consider it a cure.

In what universe is ostensibly unlimited hair not considered a cure?

Especially when the technology allows for control over all aspects of the newly created hair?

You're right about the cost, though.

 

[Magma]

In what universe is ostensibly unlimited hair not considered a cure?

Especially when the technology allows for control over all aspects of the newly created hair?

You're right about the cost, though.

From my current reading on all of these realistic near-future treatments will require at some stage an hair transplant to be performed by a surgeon. I guess it's a matter of semantics and POV then. I don't consider an hair transplant to be a "cure" even though it can achieve its purpose in making you a "full head" in the eyes of the public, but to me most results still look quite unnatural even from the best hair transplant surgeons.

It's a big step if and when it is done, undoubtedly, but I doubt it will return that exact look and natural hairline many of us became so accustomed to in our youths.

 

[That Guy]

From my current reading on all of these realistic near-future treatments will require at some stage an hair transplant to be performed by a surgeon. I guess it's a matter of semantics and POV then. I don't consider an hair transplant to be a "cure" even though it can achieve its purpose in making you a "full head" in the eyes of the public, but to me most results still look quite unnatural even from the best hair transplant surgeons.

It's a big step if and when it is done, undoubtedly, but I doubt it will return that exact look and natural hairline many of us became so accustomed to in our youths.

Only one of the near-future treatments is essentially a transplant, but it's the next-generation version of it.

With Riken's "primordial" method, they can control the number, thickness, etc. of the follicles after extracting the required cells from donor that is immune to the condition. As such, you get a mixture of varying sizes of follicles just like what you had before; there is no reason why it shouldn't produce natural results because it is literally using cells to create follicles as they'd have been before you were born and allowing them to mature upon implantation as they did after your birth.

Assuming their method of cultivating the cells works with human cells, of course.

But, if after that explanation you still doubt the potential of such a therapy to produce 1:1 results (when even modern transplants are often undetectable and not as sophisticated), then your dissatisfaction is simply a product of an obsession with semantics, and personal definitions of the word "cure" that differ from the literal meaning.

 

[Magma]

Only one of the near-future treatments is essentially a transplant, but it's the next-generation version of it.

With Riken's "primordial" method, they can control the number, thickness, etc. of the follicles after extracting the required cells from donor that is immune to the condition. As such, you get a mixture of varying sizes of follicles just like what you had before; there is no reason why it shouldn't produce natural results because it is literally using cells to create follicles as they'd have been before you were born and allowing them to mature upon implantation as they did after your birth.

Assuming their method of cultivating the cells works with human cells, of course.

But, if after that explanation you still doubt the potential of such a therapy to produce 1:1 results (when even modern transplants are often undetectable and not as sophisticated), then your dissatisfaction is simply a product of an obsession with semantics, and personal definitions of the word "cure" that differ from the literal meaning.

This is good stuff. I clearly need to do more reading on this topic as I'm not nearly informed as I once was on the cutting edge.

 

[Dar]

Only one of the near-future treatments is essentially a transplant, but it's the next-generation version of it.

With Riken's "primordial" method, they can control the number, thickness, etc. of the follicles after extracting the required cells from donor that is immune to the condition. As such, you get a mixture of varying sizes of follicles just like what you had before; there is no reason why it shouldn't produce natural results because it is literally using cells to create follicles as they'd have been before you were born and allowing them to mature upon implantation as they did after your birth.

Assuming their method of cultivating the cells works with human cells, of course.

But, if after that explanation you still doubt the potential of such a therapy to produce 1:1 results (when even modern transplants are often undetectable and not as sophisticated), then your dissatisfaction is simply a product of an obsession with semantics, and personal definitions of the word "cure" that differ from the literal meaning.

The cost would be the mitigating factor that it is feasible......wouldn't it? Many already think standard transplants are too expensive and start saving years before they think they will need one. What about this procedure?

 

[MrV88]

I think 99% of this depressed suicidal forum users would give eveything for infinite donor and not being bald anymore even if it is not fully looking natural.