Very Impressive Dermarolling And Minxodil Results - From Tressless

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All these pictures and studies and peoples results on this thread, why are there people still in the brotzu thread complaining there are no pics? Baffles me when this is ready available, safe and cheap
See, the thing is, this takes effort and will. You gotta power through the pain, be consistent and patient... These are in the list of humanity's less favorites.
A pill or a lotion sound a lot more comfortable. And even then some people have trouble being consistent.
 

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1 mm derma+minoxidil+nizoral

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Well guys I don't need any more convincing. I'm gonna dermaroll for the rest of my life now. I mean what the f***?
 

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What the absolute fck man?!

Btw, could you link the sources of where you found these results?

I used google image search and then used firefox word search function to make sure the person used microneedling. I then read the posts quickly to ascertain if dermaroll helped that person or not. If yes I posted it here. I want to keep all these results here so that I can take inspiration from them. I already downloaded the Chinese study pdf and I will be coming back here or read the study to motivate myself if I fall off the wagon again. I've already seen decent results in just 3-4 months a total of three times in the last 5-6 years and every time I give up around the 3/4th month point because it becomes too hard. It could be because I was using Somebody's method which also hurts like hell on the hairline and added real wounding the 3rd time and that was too much for me. This time I'm only doing it once every two weeks. I did everyday or every other day Somebody style.
 

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The most amazing are those who got results using only finasteride and dermarolling or nizoral and dermarolling. The Chinese researchers proved that dermarolling alone was as good or a little better than min alone so that's pretty f*****g amazing.
 

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I used google image search and then used firefox word search function to make sure the person used microneedling. I then read the posts quickly to ascertain if dermaroll helped that person or not. If yes I posted it here. I want to keep all these results here so that I can take inspiration from them. I already downloaded the Chinese study pdf and I will be coming back here or read the study to motivate myself if I fall off the wagon again. I've already seen decent results in just 3-4 months a total of three times in the last 5-6 years and every time I give up around the 3/4th month point because it becomes too hard. It could be because I was using Somebody's method which also hurts like hell on the hairline and added real wounding the 3rd time and that was too much for me. This time I'm only doing it once every two weeks. I did everyday or every other day Somebody style.

We need more people like you!

Thanks!
 

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My personal experience when I added wounding.

Whatever you call that circled thing, I literally created that in spite of not having that since birth. I have an asymmetrical head of hair which means my left side is one cm behind the right side including the hairline. This triangle thingy on the left side had half the horizontal projection length of the right side. But after adding wounding it became as good as brad pitt below. It's still not as dense as the right side but the length is symmetrical now. I never shared this because I thought I was f*****g crazy because you cannot create hair but it's there now even though I dropped minoxidil along with dermarolling and am on only finasteride now. It lost it's density but there are terminal hair still there hanging on. I have been told multiple times throughout my childhood about this particular asymmetry so it was there. I'm certainly not seeing things but I'm a bit pessimistic when I see things that are too good to be true.

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I still find it hard to believe because the hair are still there and dermarolling created that but the density is lower than it was.

The only negative about doing dermarolling was that I was starting to look like a f*****g Gorilla which hair appearing on my cheeks and some areas of my forehead.
 

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Wait, people, let's chill a little bit.
I greatly appreciate @MinervaCGI for spending his time to compile such a nice collection of success stories with pics. That was indeed much needed, especially to keep raising awareness of this treatment and motivate more people. HOWEVER, before reacting with so much excitement over every single pic he has posted, we need to keep in mind that many of them involved people that also started minoxidil and finasteride at the same time as needling. That alone has huge implications and should remove any "wows" and "whoas". Why? Because it is pretty common for min+finasteride to induce such a nice regrowth at the start. So we only should take into account those cases in which 1) Only needling was performed (could be along with lesser boosters such as Nizoral, or any of the crappy natural oils that are mentioned here and there) or 2) needling is performed YEARS after the subject started minoxidil and finasteride, so that the initial growth spur has already happened.
So don't get your hopes up for those instances in the conditions 1 and 2 are not met.
Don't get me wrong, not trying to be negative. There are still awesome cases of regrowth in those pics that are only attributed to needling, especially the crown of the nizoral+dermaroller guy and of course the bloodthirsty 2young2retire.

But again, we need to effectively isolate the variables to make solid inferences, so we should not base our conclusions in subjects that start needling along with the big 3.
 

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Wait, people, let's chill a little bit.
I greatly appreciate @MinervaCGI for spending his time to compile such a nice collection of success stories with pics. That was indeed much needed, especially to keep raising awareness of this treatment and motivate more people. HOWEVER, before reacting with so much excitement over every single pic he has posted, we need to keep in mind that many of them involved people that also started minoxidil and finasteride at the same time as needling. That alone has huge implications and should remove any "wows" and "whoas". Why? Because it is pretty common for min+finasteride to induce such a nice regrowth at the start. So we only should take into account those cases in which 1) Only needling was performed (could be along with lesser boosters such as Nizoral, or any of the crappy natural oils that are mentioned here and there) or 2) needling is performed YEARS after the subject started minoxidil and finasteride, so that the initial growth spur has already happened.
So don't get your hopes up for those instances in the conditions 1 and 2 are not met.
Don't get me wrong, not trying to be negative. There are still awesome cases of regrowth in those pics that are only attributed to needling, especially the crown of the nizoral+dermaroller guy and of course the bloodthirsty 2young2retire.

But again, we need to effectively isolate the variables to make solid inferences, so we should not base our conclusions in subjects that start needling along with the big 3.

I agree. To me those who start needling at the same time they use finasteride or min just aren't interesting because you just don't know. Those who try it after having been on it for years though makes it much more interesting.
 

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I agree. To me those who start needling at the same time they use finasteride or min just aren't interesting because you just don't know. Those who try it after having been on it for years though makes it much more interesting.
Yep. A considerable fraction of the people who start minoxidil and finasteride get unbelievable regrowth in the 6 first months (mainly because of minoxidil). Too bad we know what happens with minoxidil gains after a year or two....
 

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I've been on min for nearly 8 years now and my hair has definitely gotten thinner. Still have a full head of hair thouygh, but I am a diffuse thinner, but now almost after two months of needling I do feel like it has improved. It looks darker and feels thicker. Still early though, but I am sure it's going to get better eventually.
 

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Most of these people are not on finastride tho? Including the guy this thread is about..

I agree if every result we see was using finasteride aswell as needling then it would be, well we don’t know what’s actually showing the progress but we have been showed loads of just needling and minoxidil... there is every reason to be hyped about this that something so cheap can bring our hair back, and then there is the 2 studies that showed really good results and they only lasted 6 months tops and we know off user experimece that people still get results from doing it longer

I’ve gone from.. f*** there is literally nothing to save my hair apart from something that might do but will mess with my dick to there is something cheap that has studies and loads of user stories about how succesful it is IF we actually stick to it

There is EVERY reason to be hyped.. I don’t get why people are trying to play this down, I would get it if there wasnt loads of evidence, but there is?
 

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To me, the most impressive ones are 2young and Thinning.
2young's results come from extreme needling alone and 90% of Thinning's results are from needling, massaging, Nizoral once a week and fish oil IIRC.
Both regrew entire Norwoods doing this.
Then, even if it's not documented, we have Kitedude. After 5 years of needling and massaging, he has filled a bald patch and restored his hairline.
I'm hyped about this because, even if it's not really effective by itself (although we have evidence to think it can be), it has great potential in combination with future treatments.
 

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To me, the most impressive ones are 2young and Thinning.
2young's results come from extreme needling alone and 90% of Thinning's results are from needling, massaging, Nizoral once a week and fish oil IIRC.
Both regrew entire Norwoods doing this.
Then, even if it's not documented, we have Kitedude. After 5 years of needling and massaging, he has filled a bald patch and restored his hairline.
I'm hyped about this because, even if it's not really effective by itself (although we have evidence to think it can be), it has great potential in combination with future treatments.
Exactly, those instances are the ones who are actually useful in terms of information (along with the data presented in the currently published studies). I'm just saying that we shouldn't draw solid conclusions about those who also start minoxidil and finasteride, because usually the regrowth achieved at the start of those treatment is highly similar to the vast amount of success stories posted on these forums without microneedling.
Just to remind you guys the vast variability of response potential among individuals to hair loss treatments. There are non responders to finasteride and minoxidil that might well be good responders to needling, such as the reddit guy of this thread. Similarly, there might be good responders to finas and minoxidil that might not be responders to needling. That is why I argue that we should be a bit skeptical on the gains of people who start with needling and the big 3 at the same time. Because we don't know, for that specific individual, which treatment is responsible for most of the regrowth.
 

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Exactly, those instances are the ones who are actually useful in terms of information (along with the data presented in the currently published studies). I'm just saying that we shouldn't draw solid conclusions about those who also start minoxidil and finasteride, because usually the regrowth achieved at the start of those treatment is highly similar to the vast amount of success stories posted on these forums without microneedling.
Just to remind you guys the vast variability of response potential among individuals to hair loss treatments. There are non responders to finasteride and minoxidil that might well be good responders to needling, such as the reddit guy of this thread. Similarly, there might be good responders to finas and minoxidil that might not be responders to needling. That is why I argue that we should be a bit skeptical on the gains of people who start with needling and the big 3 at the same time. Because we don't know, for that specific individual, which treatment is responsible for most of the regrowth.
This is also the main reason I'm isolating microneedling for a year, then progressively adding things to the regimen.
If I wanted to try Minoxidil or Finasteride along with it, sure, I'd most likely get pretty much all my hair back with time, but I'd have no clue which one is doing what.
With this I'm making sure which one is effective, to what extent, etc.
 

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I used google image search and then used firefox word search function to make sure the person used microneedling. I then read the posts quickly to ascertain if dermaroll helped that person or not. If yes I posted it here. I want to keep all these results here so that I can take inspiration from them. I already downloaded the Chinese study pdf and I will be coming back here or read the study to motivate myself if I fall off the wagon again. I've already seen decent results in just 3-4 months a total of three times in the last 5-6 years and every time I give up around the 3/4th month point because it becomes too hard. It could be because I was using Somebody's method which also hurts like hell on the hairline and added real wounding the 3rd time and that was too much for me. This time I'm only doing it once every two weeks. I did everyday or every other day Somebody style.

Whilst checking the threads, would be good if we had info about if these people have previously tried minoxidil without results or they had already got results previously from minoxidil

Also would be interesting if you the same search but found people that was trying needling but not having any results
 

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Also would be interesting if you the same search but found people that was trying needling but not having any results
Indeed. So far, the only people who've claimed it did nothing tried it for like 4 months.
I believe there's an instance of a dude doing it for 1.5 years with no results.
 

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Modified Somebody's routine - finasteride+min+derma every other day

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Every other day! Damn it I wanna do it every other day but everybody tells me to be patient...or did he do it with 0.5mm or something like that? My gut feeling tells me to just roll away :p
 
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