Very Impressive Dermarolling And Minxodil Results - From Tressless

Notreallyhere

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There is a huge amount of studies that have shown regrowth in a clinical setting but somehow people are never able to replicate this in their home environment... You be the judge of why that is the case.

Well im hoping its because people tried rollers in the real world and never the got the depth or punctures per cm they thought they were because there was not a skilled second person administering the treatment to another persons scalp.
 
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Well im hoping its because people tried rollers in the real world and never the got the depth or punctures per cm they thought they were because there was not a skilled second person administering the treatment to another persons scalp.

I agree. What a big problem is for treatments that are not as simpe/painless as just popping a pill is that people give up faster or are less consistent. Then after some weeks they do not see any improvements and they start thinking 'well there was never that much evidence to begin with, it is not worth it' and they go on the internet reading stories from people who did exactly the same and then they will just quit.
 

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I agree. What a big problem is for treatments that are not as simpe/painless as just popping a pill is that people give up faster or are less consistent. Then after some weeks they do not see any improvements and they start thinking 'well there was never that much evidence to begin with, it is not worth it' and they go on the internet reading stories from people who did exactly the same and then they will just quit.
2nd sessions done yesterday using pen, no improvement so far. Going to take up knitting instead!!
 

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I agree. What a big problem is for treatments that are not as simpe/painless as just popping a pill is that people give up faster or are less consistent. Then after some weeks they do not see any improvements and they start thinking 'well there was never that much evidence to begin with, it is not worth it' and they go on the internet reading stories from people who did exactly the same and then they will just quit.
Would really love to know what depth follica plan to use and or if its customized to each patient using ultrasound or something. I find 1.5 painless and 2.0 easier than going to the gym so its purely the psychological factor of is this going to be a wast of time giving me doubts
 
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I was thinking that studies and people here usually use 1.5 mm (few use 2mm) and many people claim they have no blood spots or just a little bit (studies generally show there was no blood). However, when I use 1.5 mm with derminator I got quite a bit of blood. So now I am not sure what to do about it - reducing depth or just continue? I am mainly concerned because it takes from a Friday to a Tuesday to get a normal looking scalp, but at the same time going to less than 1.5 mm would be going against what everyone is doing and what probably works. Anyway, will probably continue with 1.5 mm but just wanted to ask you guys what you think causes the difference between individuals and blood - perhaps just scalp skin thickness?
Keep going "1.5 mm with derminator I got quite a bit of blood"
Just lower your treatments to once every 2 weeks
 

Francesco17

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There is a huge amount of studies that have shown regrowth in a clinical setting but somehow people are never able to replicate this in their home environment... You be the judge of why that is the case.

There appears to be a growing body of evidence on this forum for result replication with at home procedures. Some see no regrowth, and there are several possible explanations: they did not follow the right procedure, they gave up too early, their gains were too marginal for them to be noticed, but they might have been detected by a professional (for example, magnified haircount). Of course, there is the possibility that some people will never ever respond to needling, and all of the ones recruited for the indian study were responders for an inscrutable fateful reason. However, based on the evidence we have now, there is no ground to say that only a minority will respond to this treatment, let alone placing an estimate like 30% as done above. Unless one is very clear about what success means: for me it means any regrowth that is reasonably noticeable, for others it might be nothing less than a thick Norwood 1.
 

2young2retire

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do not forget this.
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do not go in the sun for 7 days after the roll
do the procedure only in winter months.
avoid UV wavelengths after the rolling
massage the skin after the roll, let the tiny holes bleed this tiny amount of blood by mechanical stress.

i am not a doctor. please consult with your doctor before doing anything.
i am not selling anything
i am just spending my time here talking funny stuff.(for fun)
 

albert

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do not forget this.
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do not go in the sun for 7 days after the roll
do the procedure only in winter months.
avoid UV wavelengths after the rolling
massage the skin after the roll, let the tiny holes bleed this tiny amount of blood by mechanical stress.

i am not a doctor. please consult with your doctor before doing anything.
i am not selling anything
i am just spending my time here talking funny stuff.(for fun)

Welcome back, nice to see you in this forum greek friend. That picture was really helpful when I started the first time with a dermaroller. Angiogenesis is quite important part, and seems that by doing it every week we might be halting the process.

Anyway I believe we’d all appreciate if you explain a bit the past and current routine so that we can quote you in this thread.

Another question is that if sun screen protection would help during summer, since if you don’t wound for several months you may as well lose almost everything, right?
 

2young2retire

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It is nice to be with you. thank you.
UV light can cause cancer on wound healing skin. Cancer is no joke. With all the cancers the first line of treatment is proactivity.
I would avoid rolling around the summer months.

you don't have to keep wounding forever albert. Take some breaks and let the further down the healing process mechanisms do their job.
Before evaluating your process keep in mind that your hair mass is constantly declining without treatment.
Welcome back, nice to see you in this forum greek friend. That picture was really helpful when I started the first time with a dermaroller. Angiogenesis is quite important part, and seems that by doing it every week we might be halting the process.

Anyway I believe we’d all appreciate if you explain a bit the past and current routine so that we can quote you in this thread.

Another question is that if sun screen protection would help during summer, since if you don’t wound for several months you may as well lose almost everything, right?
 

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It is nice to be with you. thank you.
UV light can cause cancer on wound healing skin. Cancer is no joke. With all the cancers the first line of treatment is proactivity.
I would avoid rolling around the summer months.

you don't have to keep wounding forever albert. Take some breaks and let the further down the healing process mechanisms do their job.
Before evaluating your process keep in mind that your hair mass is constantly declining without treatment.

The prodigy has returned! Wow! Welcome back man. As a dude who has been doing it in the long run and responded very well, coul you please answer 2 important questions for us?

1) is the regrowth gained from microneedling permanent? Or does it fade away after a year or two, like minoxidil regrowth? Of course, I'm doing this question assuming that one commits to needling for life (having some breaks as you suggested)

2) Is it still possible to get regrowth late in the treatment? I mean, there have been some individuals who gets almost nothing in the first 3 months and quit, thinking that they will get no improvement later, bit a couple of users have told us that regrowth might appear later in the trratment. What can you tell us about that?

Thanks in advance, hope you still have the nice hair you regrown years ago.
 
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