Very Impressive Dermarolling And Minxodil Results - From Tressless

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whenever i dermaroll, the next morning i wake up with my scalp oozing some clear puss like fluid. only in one spot on the crown of my head. this happen to anyone else?
 

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Just did my 3rd session. For me I think I need to draw a little blood to get that mild redness. Like my temples only start to get a little red when I push a little harder and that's when the blood spots start to appear. Wonder how it will be with the dermapen.
 

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What do you guys think: When I'm using Microneedling one time a week only on the hairline and temples, can i use Minoxidil right after the microneedling on the rest of the scalp if I'm trying to avoid the application on the needled hairline and temples?
You can even apply it on the rolled parts, i never had issues when i used minoxidil...
 

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How do you guys avoid the dermapen catching or dragging along your skin? Doing it well, but sometimes that happens.....went 2mm this time....fair bit more painful and my head certainly looks like its had a session! ha
 

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Do yall Derma pen directly on your hair? I was just doing it on my temples but started to do it all over my head. I have hair everywhere (thin) so when I Derma pen I can't really see all the area I covered. Hopefully it doesn't damage any existing strands
 

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Do yall Derma pen directly on your hair? I was just doing it on my temples but started to do it all over my head. I have hair everywhere (thin) so when I Derma pen I can't really see all the area I covered. Hopefully it doesn't damage any existing strands

Yeah....when the hair is all wet, makes it much easier and you can see where you've been.
 

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What do you guys think: When I'm using Microneedling one time a week only on the hairline and temples, can i use Minoxidil right after the microneedling on the rest of the scalp if I'm trying to avoid the application on the needled hairline and temples?

You can but it may increase systematic absorbance of Min. Unless you suffer from side effects then it probably won't matter.

whenever i dermaroll, the next morning i wake up with my scalp oozing some clear puss like fluid. only in one spot on the crown of my head. this happen to anyone else?

This sounds like an infection.
You need to apply some sort of antiseptic cream like Neosporin to the area. Probably stop dermarolling or micro needling until it's resolved.
Then make sure you are cleaning your derma roller properly by with alcohol before/after use.

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I don't think OP is faking pics just to get people to buy rollers.
I do think a big part of his growth is due to minoxidil.
He was not on any hair loss preventative treatment before this, so a strong response to some drug therapy is likely.
Further due to the abrasions in his scalp he is probably benefiting from systematic absorption of min.

Pharmacokinetics
Absorption: Poorly absorbed through intact skin. About 0.3% to 4.5% of a topically applied dose reaches the systemic circulation. Application to skin with decreased integrity may increase systemic absorption.
Distribution: Serum levels are generally negligible.

Special Consideration
Each ml contains 20 or 50 mg minoxidil and accidental ingestion could cause adverse systemic effects.

So I'm just guessing but let's say that after abrasion you injest 5% to 20% systemically. And let's say there's at least 50 mg per ml. That's about 2.5mg to 10mg per application or 5 mg to 20 mg daily.
Someone double check my math but I think you may be getting 5mg to 20mg per day systematically.
That might help explain how his growth has been so exponential.
 

Francky85

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He said he used Minoxidil for about 2 years or so and it did nothing...then quit...then started again when he started using a Dermapen?
 

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Hey guys I’m also planning on using a derma pen maybe in about a week. My question is what brand or type of pen y’all recommend? Also are you guys putting anything on your scalp right after you needle?
 

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Right, round one complete! See photo

Got stuck in with a Dr Pen on 2.0mm and was relatively ok. Pain was was manageable and was more towards the enjaoyable / it’s a challenge end of the spectrum. Get’s the adrenalin pumping. In fact on the lower back crown, it’s actually felt quite nice and soothing.

Stopped about an inch short of the hairline as was worried about shock loss or similar, plus I’m not too bad there.

Happy to report that seemed to be no immediate loss what so ever from the needles which was a concern for me. They seem to be too small for hair to get tangled up in them and yanked out. Could only see 4 or 5 hairs on my pillow this morning.

Followed up with my topical of equol, estriol, 17-alpha estradiol, hydralazine and tofacitinib. Hoping the needling is positive and so can start to slowly drop the chems.

Also did a pass over the face with 1.00mm with vit c and hydraulic acid serum... Got the pen, so why not!

Will repeat in 10 days. Will keep photo logs going fwd.
 

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I don't think OP is faking pics just to get people to buy rollers.
I do think a big part of his growth is due to minoxidil.
He was not on any hair loss preventative treatment before this, so a strong response to some drug therapy is likely.
Further due to the abrasions in his scalp he is probably benefiting from systematic absorption of min.

I think that's unlikely. First of all, he had been using Minoxidil for years without any improvement before starting the microneedling procedures. Second, he did not apply Minoxidil right after the needling session. I doubt that absorption is still much improved a day after the wounding.
 

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You can but it may increase systematic absorbance of Min. Unless you suffer from side effects then it probably won't matter.



This sounds like an infection.
You need to apply some sort of antiseptic cream like Neosporin to the area. Probably stop dermarolling or micro needling until it's resolved.
Then make sure you are cleaning your derma roller properly by with alcohol before/after use.

_________________________________________________

I don't think OP is faking pics just to get people to buy rollers.
I do think a big part of his growth is due to minoxidil.
He was not on any hair loss preventative treatment before this, so a strong response to some drug therapy is likely.
Further due to the abrasions in his scalp he is probably benefiting from systematic absorption of min.

Pharmacokinetics
Absorption: Poorly absorbed through intact skin. About 0.3% to 4.5% of a topically applied dose reaches the systemic circulation. Application to skin with decreased integrity may increase systemic absorption.
Distribution: Serum levels are generally negligible.

Special Consideration
Each ml contains 20 or 50 mg minoxidil and accidental ingestion could cause adverse systemic effects.

So I'm just guessing but let's say that after abrasion you injest 5% to 20% systemically. And let's say there's at least 50 mg per ml. That's about 2.5mg to 10mg per application or 5 mg to 20 mg daily.
Someone double check my math but I think you may be getting 5mg to 20mg per day systematically.
That might help explain how his growth has been so exponential.

I think he waits 24 hours before applying minoxidil, surely the wounds would have healed by then and stopped it going anymore systematic than applying without dermarolling? Im currently taking 10mg of oral minoxidil and wounding every week.
 
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