Very Impressive Dermarolling And Minxodil Results - From Tressless

[sportsguy97]

We all know hair goes through cycles. Treatments have cycles and take time. This needling thing is easy enough to do to stick with long term.... at least once every couple of weeks.

Obviously we can’t guarantee everyone will get results. But as previously mentioned I hope more people see this through long term.

At least there is solid science behind this treatment. There have also been legit results posted. It isn’t some snake oil treatment. Will it work for everyone? I hope it will. But we will def see.

 

[FCKW36]

Never noticed that my hair was so bad. I was always focused on my front most of the time. Some months ago I noticed, that I lost ground on the top of my head too but that it's so bad already... Wow... Im shocked.

 

[whatintheworld]

Minoxidil liquid on my hairline is such a pain in the ***, the stuff keeps dripping down my forehead. I'm going to stick to using the foam on the front and the liquid on the back from now on.

About a month of needling in and no real results to report.

 

[FCKW36]

Grabbed this picture from a YouTube-Video. I think it's from one of the dermarolling studies? As you can see, they go really hard with this thing. Maybe this is absolutely necessary to get good results. Needling the sh*t out of your scalp.

 

[FCKW36]

Crazy

 

[DepressionPrince]

Not sure if it is really necessary to go so hard on it.

I definitely seen on this forum someone, who had great results with needling, but he said that he did not go that harsh and only had mild redness after the sessions. Does not mean that it would work that way for everyone, though...

 

[sportsguy97]

It’s possible. Again we’re trying to create new follicles. Maybe wounding heavy once a month would be better. Out of my 8-9 sessions I did 2-3 that were heavy so far. When I say heavy it means I had to take breaks between doing a 15-20 min session.

More Blood spots and redness. Nothing to crazy But it wasn’t like what 2young did. Still something to keep in mind

 

[J0ker]

Grabbed this picture from a YouTube-Video. I think it's from one of the dermarolling studies? As you can see, they go really hard with this thing. Maybe this is absolutely necessary to get good results. Needling the sh*t out of your scalp.

Link to the video?

 

[FCKW36]

Link to the video?

Not important this is only an uncommented picture in this video.

 

[FCKW36]

I think we really need to be patient. Like with every other treatment, the response time is very different. In the German forum we have some cases were finasteride for example worked already after 3 or 4 months and we have many cases were it needed more than 12 months to see results. There was a guy who said he needed 3 years.

I'm a good example too. With Minoxidil I saw nothing until month 5 and then I got crazy regrowth. This is a very late Minoxidil response, many people are seeing first results within 3 months.

 

[layabout]

Lol only women want/need thick eyebrows

eyebrows are hella important for guys tho

all prettyboys have hick eyebrows

pretty much all attractive guys have thick eyebrows

 

[layabout]

holy f*** a lot of crying today.

wahhhhhhh dermarolling doesn't work, I'm only 1.234I123 months in and I haven't gotten FULL REGROWTH YET?!?!

Y'all should jus drop it if you're going to cry this much about it.

Looks like out of everyone complaining none are using minoxidil or finasteride either

 

[HairSuit]

holy f*** a lot of crying today.

wahhhhhhh dermarolling doesn't work, I'm only 1.234I123 months in and I haven't gotten FULL REGROWTH YET?!?!

Y'all should jus drop it if you're going to cry this much about it.

Looks like out of everyone complaining none are using minoxidil or finasteride either

Not a fair statement. Chances are, this will probably not work for everyone. It is not the miracle we’d all hoped. Doesn’t mean we don’t try. Doesn’t mean we don’t continue to try. I’m 4+ months in and been using minoxidil for 10 years. I’m worse today than when I started needling. Will that change? Sure hope so. But if it doesn’t, I tried. Glad others are getting regrowth. Don’t know what the connection between those who get results and those who don’t. The real shitter would be if this had a negative effect on some.

 

[9982]

I think we really need to be patient. Like with every other treatment, the response time is very different. In the German forum we have some cases were finasteride for example worked already after 3 or 4 months and we have many cases were it needed more than 12 months to see results. There was a guy who said he needed 3 years.

I'm a good example too. With Minoxidil I saw nothing until month 5 and then I got crazy regrowth. This is a very late Minoxidil response, many people are seeing first results within 3 months.

Im getting regrowth. It's obvious. BUT, I started minoxidil a month before needling. I didn't start thinning until my late 40s though. And Ive had above average body hair since childhood. My hair is looking pretty good right now. I've noticed the crown is starting to get noticeably better. This was my main concern. But hairline is filling in with weird looking hair.
I hope that this is a good sign

 

[CuredMouse]

Guys I'm seeing a huge uptick in "It's not working posts" and they all have the same thing in common, they're all from people too early in to be seeing results. Imagine going to a weight loss forum and claiming you're not seeing results in a few weeks, it's illogical. This treatment begins working somewhere between 3-12 months after the first session, and works MUCH better alongside minoxidil and or sandalore. If you want fast results I urge you to go check that page, there are some pretty decent results but also it appears to be a fast working treatment.

 

[sportsguy97]

Maybe there is something to wounding a little more intently.I have also been getting regrowth. But 3 of my 8-9 sessions have been heavier. IE I see or wait for blood spots..... i have to take breaks between..... and it eventually hurts passing over the same spot. It is wounding. The purpose is to promote a growth response. Maybe mild redness just doesn’t cut it for some. Do I think we have to wound agressively all the time? No. But I don’t think it could hurt to throw in a more aggressive session once in a blue or once a month.

I still think for some heavier wounding will help create new follicles. To maintain we probably don't. But even follica is calling for "wounding in office" and "maybe needing subsequent visits". Sounds like they have a specific method to wound the skin intently. Remember guys like BBQ guy and also 2young (without minoxidil) had heavy wounds to stimulate regrowth.

In no way am i saying go that far ( i would never as well). I'm just saying maybe up the intensity a bit once in a while.

 

[Norwood Recovery]

Guys I'm seeing a huge uptick in "It's not working posts" and they all have the same thing in common, they're all from people too early in to be seeing results. Imagine going to a weight loss forum and claiming you're not seeing results in a few weeks, it's illogical. This treatment begins working somewhere between 3-12 months after the first session, and works MUCH better alongside minoxidil and or sandalore. If you want fast results I urge you to go check that page, there are some pretty decent results but also it appears to be a fast working treatment.

I’m 2 needle sessions in and I’ve been using a sandalore mix for about 2 weeks, do you believe sandalore is a serviceable topical to use instead of minoxidil? I’m wary of minoxidil purported aging side effects.

 

[ToLGuy]

So apparently the last two pages are a marathon of reports from non-responders. This is sad, but it was actually expected. Why? Because at this very same time mark (at around 3-5 months) people in the previous community trials in 2013-2014 started to report the same thing:
A considerable proportion of non responders complaining, and other moderate responders reporting mild regrowth (vellus hairs) that was eventually dismissed because it didn't have cosmetic significance. At that point, people started to quit.
Right now, we are going through the same point, and desperation is rising here. We are at the biggest risk of this trial, a mass quitting event.
Why do people start getting desperate at this time mark ? Because it is the time frame reported in the original Dhurat study.
But this point is also the one that should make a difference with respect to the past trials, this is the point in which we must man up and decide needle the heck out of our scalps for 12-18 months. Some other users did it, and it worked for them,now we most try to reproduce that and assess how it works in the long term, at large scale. We must go beyond the studies now.

Come on guys, just do not quit, please.

 

[yayapapaya]

I’m 2 needle sessions in and I’ve been using a sandalore mix for about 2 weeks, do you believe sandalore is a serviceable topical to use instead of minoxidil? I’m wary of minoxidil purported aging side effects.

Probably not. The only reason you see results here in the first place is due to minoxidil. minoxidil is stronger and works faster then almost everything else. I'm taking sandalore now, but i dont know how potent it is yet. minoxidil aging is reversable when you stop. There is no harm in trying to see if u r affected.

 

[sportsguy97]

So apparently the last two pages are a marathon of reports from non-responders. This is sad, but it was actually expected. Why? Because at this very same time mark (at around 3-5 months) people in the previous community trials in 2013-2014 started to report the same thing:
A considerable proportion of non responders complaining, and other moderate responders reporting mild regrowth (vellus hairs) that was eventually dismissed because it didn't have cosmetic significance. At that point, people started to quit.
Right now, we are going through the same point, and desperation is rising here. We are at the biggest risk of this trial, a mass quitting event.
Why do people start getting desperate at this time mark ? Because it is the time frame reported in the original Dhurat study.
But this point is also the one that should make a difference with respect to the past trials, this is the point in which we must man up and decide needle the heck out of our scalps for 12-18 months. Some other users did it, and it worked for them,now we most try to reproduce that and assess how it works in the long term, at large scale. We must go beyond the studies now.

Come on guys, just do not quit, please.

Amen man. I’ve said it a million times.even if one was getting 0 results why not continue this long term. Even though we’re hoping it’s a lot more.... at the very least it’s a good supplemental/maitenance treatment.

- it’s easy enough to do.
- you can limit your sessions to once or twice a month if you choose.
- there is legit science and results.

In my mind this has way more potential than anti androgens. Without the nasty side effects. Yet ppl continue to take those things cause “they are proven”. Just keep at it. No reason not to.