Very Impressive Dermarolling And Minxodil Results - From Tressless

[Trafalgar Law]

Some people with a more aggressive Androgenetic Alopecia may read this and come up with the wrong conclusion that it will work for them too.

This. While I have no doubt that microoneedling and minoxidil are valuable tools in the fight against hairloss, but I also think it is foolish to neglect the underlying cause of the problem by succumbing to unwarranted fears about a drug whose side effects are trivial at worst. Unless an AA or 5ARI is used to deal with the androgens in the scalp, growth stimulants in conjunction with microoneedling will only go so far. The initial gains of minoxidil and needling will eventually be offset by future androgenetic hairloss. It would amount to the pharmacological equivalent of trying to win a Nascar race with the breaks on, which would undoubtedly be a losing competition for many, particularly the most disadvantage contestants.

If one is to win the "fight" against hairloss, ideally they should attempt to incorporate both growth stimulants(minoxidil, stemoxydine) and anti-androgens(finasteride, dutasteride, HRT, etc.) to create an all-encompassing regime that "attacks" the problem from all angles. Finasteride works for the overwhelming majority of people and the incidence of side effects is practically negligible. And anyone who says or suggests otherwise is simply dishonest and manipulative.

 

[John Difool]

Most tressless users are on finasteride already. So what's your point? I am looking at the "angle" where 5aris stop working (or never worked in the first place) in case of more aggressive Androgenetic Alopecia. Then what?

 

[Trafalgar Law]

Most tressless users are on finasteride already. So what's your point? I am looking at the "angle" where 5aris stop working (or never worked in the first place) in case of more aggressive Androgenetic Alopecia. Then what?

Sorry John, I took what you said out of context. To be honest, I have limited knowledge of experimental hairloss treatments outside conventional ones like minoxidil, finasteride, dutasteride, nizoral, etc, so I am not sure what to recommend for an aggressive case that does not respond to those treatments.

In the event that finasteride and dutasteride stop working or fail to work, then perhaps a topical AA(dutasteride, bicalutamide, or RU58841) could be used to directly address the root of the problem(pun), or HRT if someone is willing to accept the consequences.

 

[iCloud]

https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s13555-021-00653-2.pdf

Another article..

 

[CJ_Frankfurt]

https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s13555-021-00653-2.pdf

Another article..

Thanks for the article. Rob English sums up the obvious: All scientific research about microneedling is to small to draw general conclusions.

 

[John Difool]

It would be nice after all this time to determine the limits of this treatment. Walking around with a scaring scalp trying to constantly heal is not a sustainable way to deal with any condition.

 

[John Difool]

Pigeon is a bot from reddit posting tressless junk on HairLossTalk.com.

 

[John Difool]

The discord channels where people post results are not the one you have the privilege to be invited due to your aversion to use experimental treatments.

And that's for the best. Honestly, you wouldn't fit there.

 

[CJ_Frankfurt]

Can we have some relaxation here, please? Somehow it's tempting to defend your own beliefs with religious zeal, but the bottom line is that there's no one ideal solution that fits all, is there?

I recently heard a phrase from Ed Stafford (the survival professional) that is really pertinent here as well:

Acceptance….When you accept what is, every moment is the best moment. When you fight against it, then you‘re angry or annoyed or frustrated or…pissed off. But when you accept it, life‘s good. …Easier said than done…(Ed Stafford)

 

[John Difool]

Lol I'm in all the discord channels

You are not on at least 3 channels where I saw result photos, but okay whatever, you are right. Everyone wants to invite the famous @Pigeon with his expert minoxidil and microneedling experience.

These microneedling results with minoxidil are not sustainable. That's my issue. Unless you can call something that works for 2 years on the most privileged responders a treatment?

 

[John Difool]

It's impossible for you to be on the servers that are locked to buyers only since you are not buying any drugs yourself. Unless you buy the scamming drugs just to be in the gb and flush those down the toilet, you fool?

 

[John Difool]

It's impossible for you to be on the servers that are locked to buyers only since you are not buying any drugs yourself. Unless you buy the scamming drugs just to be in the gb and flush those down the toilet, you fool?

Having to resort to use different names on different servers?! You can only use one server name for the whole discord, the pseudo you use on each server is connected to that name in your discord profile, you idiot.

How about results on your own head? Did that work for you or are you just masturbating on the pics of others with better success?

 

[John Difool]

The dude is spending his time creating multiple accounts to spy on discord. And I am the clown, okay boss! But why little man are you going thru this if you believe the chinese stuff is just a scam? The answer is rather simple. A much more appropriate answer would be to exclude yourself from these discord servers. But instead, you publicly make fun of us on gb while you don't want to miss an opportunity to know asap when something will save your shitty hair. What an hypocrit.

 

[John Difool]

Do you have proof that the compounds are not legit? Did you ever buy something and tested it? I don't think so. Else show me the results of tests.

 

[John Difool]

Hey, I am not the one questioning if they are legit. You are. Please don't reverse the situation.

PS: what Norwood are you?

 

[John Difool]

I did ran enough tests to put to rest my own concerns on my sources. Most discords are using the same lab so this shouldn't be an isolated concern and anyone is welcome to run a $35 test to validate what they get.

And congrats on being able to stay a nw1 today with fantastic hair, just by microneedling and using minoxidil for the last 4 years you spent on this forum. Here is hoping you can keep those sexy hair without any help from the Chinese.

 

[KNemo]

TFW yet another episode of "childish acting men" is on.

 

[John Difool]

What can I say, this forum is boring as hell. Nothing exciting going on anymore here. All the new research threads are taken down in flames by a group of hypocrits who only believe in what comes out of the FDA snail approval process. The most exciting post this month was a discussion on macaque hairstyling, just to tell you how bad this place has become. Other than that, It's the same posts over and over with reddit reposts and discussions on CBD regrowth or debating if there will be a cure in this century or millenium.

 

[fashy]

Interesting small study suggesting microneedling results may last longer than fina, minoxidil mono therapy even after quitting.

Randomized trial of electrodynamic microneedling combined with 5% minoxidil topical solution for treating androgenetic alopecia in Chinese males and molecular mechanistic study of the involvement of the Wnt/β-catenin signaling pathway

Download Citation | Randomized trial of electrodynamic microneedling combined with 5% minoxidil topical solution for treating androgenetic alopecia in Chinese males and molecular mechanistic study of the involvement of the Wnt/β-catenin signaling pathway | Background: Treatment of androgenetic...

www.researchgate.net

This has not been my experience. Unfortunately I lost all that I gained, and then some, about a year after I started the regiment.

 

[fashy]

Did you try finasteride?

Not yet, waiting on Kintor phase II results and, if they are good and seem legit, will try to get in on a GB for pyrilutamide. If Kintor fails, then I would have no option than to hop on finasteride as there is nothing else in the pipeline that could come out anytime soon and the hair I have left (I'm a NW3 right now, headed for a NW3.5 fast + diffuse) is not going to last much more.