Very Impressive Dermarolling And Minxodil Results - From Tressless

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Might it not be that micro needling works for all in the long-run? It's a hack unlike any other that I have ever known to exist, for both attractiveness and hair and just youth and rejuvenation in general. I have done it weekly for 30 months without fail but eh, I am all but literally the only person on Earth to have micro needled for that long continuously. It appears to me to re-generate hair-bearing follicles even where there's none. How is that even possible? Cross-talk among not just follicles but apparently between hair-bearing units is coordinated and stem cells and other factors make hair from scar-bearing tissue a reality. If I am right about that, then it might mean many more follicles to be able to be harvested from donor area although one questions why a transplant is needed if micro needling can regenerate follicle-bearing tissue. Probably there is no longer any need for most transplants for those inclined to put the time in derma-rolling and micro needling. Retin-A makes it even gooder. Stupid spell check. I meant to say goober, again, goober, rather and there it goes a third GD time.
 
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Anyone seen this study;

Microneedling Improves Minoxidil Response in Androgenetic Alopecia Patients by Upregulating Follicular Sulfotransferase Enzymes​




Could explain why needling works well for many who didn't respond to normal minoxidil usage.
Yes, I’ve seen that one (Dhurat is also involved) but have never been able to find the full text.
 

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Might it not be that micro needling works for all in the long-run? It's a hack unlike any other that I have ever known to exist, for both attractiveness and hair and just youth and rejuvenation in general. I have done it weekly for 30 months without fail but eh, I am all but literally the only person on Earth to have micro needled for that long continuously. It appears to me to re-generate hair-bearing follicles even where there's none. How is that even possible? Cross-talk among not just follicles but apparently between hair-bearing units is coordinated and stem cells and other factors make hair from scar-bearing tissue a reality. If I am right about that, then it might mean many more follicles to be able to be harvested from donor area although one questions why a transplant is needed if micro needling can regenerate follicle-bearing tissue. Probably there is no longer any need for most transplants for those inclined to put the time in derma-rolling and micro needling. Retin-A makes it even gooder. Stupid spell check. I meant to say goober, again, goober, rather and there it goes a third GD time.
Alert: Janney left the HRT thread in success story and is now invading the whole forum. Geeeesussssss.
 

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Might it not be that micro needling works for all in the long-run? It's a hack unlike any other that I have ever known to exist, for both attractiveness and hair and just youth and rejuvenation in general. I have done it weekly for 30 months without fail but eh, I am all but literally the only person on Earth to have micro needled for that long continuously. It appears to me to re-generate hair-bearing follicles even where there's none. How is that even possible? Cross-talk among not just follicles but apparently between hair-bearing units is coordinated and stem cells and other factors make hair from scar-bearing tissue a reality. If I am right about that, then it might mean many more follicles to be able to be harvested from donor area although one questions why a transplant is needed if micro needling can regenerate follicle-bearing tissue. Probably there is no longer any need for most transplants for those inclined to put the time in derma-rolling and micro needling. Retin-A makes it even gooder. Stupid spell check. I meant to say goober, again, goober, rather and there it goes a third GD time.
Janey,in the past i told you that you talk a lot and you told me to f*** off and to suck a dick.I am about to return the favor.
 

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Janey,in the past i told you that you talk a lot and you told me to f*** off and to sack a dick.I am about to return the favor.
Whatever works for people, I'm in favor of but I am also in an acid-y haze but yes prescribed edible.
 
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Im going to make a topical for needling with. Just need to buy ingredients, it will consist of

Minoxidil
Tretinoin
RU58841
Ketoconazole
Estriol


I think that will work well. I stopped spironolactone, dutasteride and estradiol, just going to use this topical along with 1mg finasteride,5mg oral min and needling. Anyone have any other suggestions about what to add?
 
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Im going to make a topical for needling with. Just need to buy ingredients, it will consist of

Minoxidil
Tretinoin
RU58841
Ketoconazole
Estriol
Rosemary oil

I think that will work well. I stopped spironolactone, dutasteride and estradiol, just going to use this topical along with 1mg finasteride,5mg oral min and needling. Anyone have any other suggestions about what
Maybe some battery acid for that very special blood flow? (just kidding)

I think it’s way too much what you are mixing up. Do you know what are the long term results of such a treatment? Risking you health for hair regrowth should never be the aim of a treatment.
 

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Rosemary oil?you forgot castor oil and saw palmetto...

RU + E3 + Duta topical. OM, tretinoin separate on a very efficient vehicle. I'll add UT to the topical and I will continue UK while taking SMI oral. That's my angle.
 

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Rosemary oil?you forgot castor oil and saw palmetto...

RU + E3 + Duta topical. OM, tretinoin separate on a very efficient vehicle. I'll add UT to the topical and I will continue UK while taking SMI oral. That's my angle.

Yeah, rosemary was a bit silly, just thought i would add it anyway, i'll not bother. Im just going to buy the ingredients and think about vehicle, any suggestions about that? DMSO if possible?
 

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Are you a bot from the reddit tressless sub posting here or are you human?

If you are gonna post the reddit thread here, why don't you bring the whole story? On the second results pics, Dr Bill Rassman says: "The effect of the second picture could be the results of longer, curly, coarse hair alone"
 

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Are you saying you know better than Dr. Rassman? I can't be anything else than what you call me when people talk out of their arse.
 

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Yes doctors are always right of course, you can't explain that result just because of curly hair lol.

But believe what you want, I already know you think every result here is fake anyway.
At least I am working on becoming the first slow gain hyper responder on microneedling and Minoxidil here
 

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Some people with a more aggressive Androgenetic Alopecia may read this and come up with the wrong conclusion that it will work for them too.
This. While I have no doubt that microoneedling and minoxidil are valuable tools in the fight against hairloss, but I also think it is foolish to neglect the underlying cause of the problem by succumbing to unwarranted fears about a drug whose side effects are trivial at worst. Unless an AA or 5ARI is used to deal with the androgens in the scalp, growth stimulants in conjunction with microoneedling will only go so far. The initial gains of minoxidil and needling will eventually be offset by future androgenetic hairloss. It would amount to the pharmacological equivalent of trying to win a Nascar race with the breaks on, which would undoubtedly be a losing competition for many, particularly the most disadvantage contestants.

If one is to win the "fight" against hairloss, ideally they should attempt to incorporate both growth stimulants(minoxidil, stemoxydine) and anti-androgens(finasteride, dutasteride, HRT, etc.) to create an all-encompassing regime that "attacks" the problem from all angles. Finasteride works for the overwhelming majority of people and the incidence of side effects is practically negligible. And anyone who says or suggests otherwise is simply dishonest and manipulative.
 

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Most tressless users are on finasteride already. So what's your point? I am looking at the "angle" where 5aris stop working (or never worked in the first place) in case of more aggressive Androgenetic Alopecia. Then what?
 

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Most tressless users are on finasteride already. So what's your point? I am looking at the "angle" where 5aris stop working (or never worked in the first place) in case of more aggressive Androgenetic Alopecia. Then what?
Sorry John, I took what you said out of context. To be honest, I have limited knowledge of experimental hairloss treatments outside conventional ones like minoxidil, finasteride, dutasteride, nizoral, etc, so I am not sure what to recommend for an aggressive case that does not respond to those treatments.

In the event that finasteride and dutasteride stop working or fail to work, then perhaps a topical AA(dutasteride, bicalutamide, or RU58841) could be used to directly address the root of the problem(pun), or HRT if someone is willing to accept the consequences.
 
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