Old Baldy
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The Supreme Court of the United States and the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, in Heller and Nordyke, respectively, adamantly disagree with you Clay.
They both concluded, in no uncertain terms, that the 2nd Amendment gives the individual the right to own firearms for (1) self-defense purposes and (2) to guard against tyranny. (Even Obama agrees with that for pete's sake.)
Both courts also agreed those are good reasons to own a firearm.
Sorry but you anti-gunners lost and you lost BIG!! Thank God!!
Your "well regulated militia" argument has been thrown onto the historical trash heap so to speak. It is a red herring argument that has no substance. It was a silly attempt to narrow down a basic fundamental individual right so the anti-gunners could live in a police state. They failed and they failed abysmally in that silly argument. It took time but that argument is, as stated, in the historical trash heap. And will remain there forever.
The anti-gun Democrats (the old commie types like Schumer, Clanton and Feinstein) know it is political suicide to prohibit the ownership of semi-auto firearms. And the SCOTUS stated firearms commonly used and owned by millions of law abidinig citizens fall within the 2nd Amendment.
Btw, I should be getting my concealed carry license any day now. Now that's what I'm talkin' about!!unk:
God I love the USA!!
Clay: Do you fear the guy/gal with a semi-auto rifle because you don't trust yourself with a firearm? I've found that most anti-gunners, if pressed real hard and answer honestly, fear firearms because they don't trust their own personalities enough to own one.
I've owned firearms for over 40 years now and never once tried to use them for criminal or careless purposes.
Go out and shoot a little Clay. You might be pleasantly surprised.
You'll find there ain't nothing draconian or evil about a semi-auto firearm. Quite the opposite I bet.
And finally, no, the military would have no chance in defeating an armed US populace in a nightmare "war against the government" scenario. They would be totally defeated in the long-term. Too many people with too many guns. I've heard this from lifetime military officers. They all stated the "military would have no chance in the long run".
They both concluded, in no uncertain terms, that the 2nd Amendment gives the individual the right to own firearms for (1) self-defense purposes and (2) to guard against tyranny. (Even Obama agrees with that for pete's sake.)
Both courts also agreed those are good reasons to own a firearm.
Sorry but you anti-gunners lost and you lost BIG!! Thank God!!
Your "well regulated militia" argument has been thrown onto the historical trash heap so to speak. It is a red herring argument that has no substance. It was a silly attempt to narrow down a basic fundamental individual right so the anti-gunners could live in a police state. They failed and they failed abysmally in that silly argument. It took time but that argument is, as stated, in the historical trash heap. And will remain there forever.
The anti-gun Democrats (the old commie types like Schumer, Clanton and Feinstein) know it is political suicide to prohibit the ownership of semi-auto firearms. And the SCOTUS stated firearms commonly used and owned by millions of law abidinig citizens fall within the 2nd Amendment.
Btw, I should be getting my concealed carry license any day now. Now that's what I'm talkin' about!!
unk: God I love the USA!!
Clay: Do you fear the guy/gal with a semi-auto rifle because you don't trust yourself with a firearm? I've found that most anti-gunners, if pressed real hard and answer honestly, fear firearms because they don't trust their own personalities enough to own one.
I've owned firearms for over 40 years now and never once tried to use them for criminal or careless purposes.
Go out and shoot a little Clay. You might be pleasantly surprised.
You'll find there ain't nothing draconian or evil about a semi-auto firearm. Quite the opposite I bet.
And finally, no, the military would have no chance in defeating an armed US populace in a nightmare "war against the government" scenario. They would be totally defeated in the long-term. Too many people with too many guns. I've heard this from lifetime military officers. They all stated the "military would have no chance in the long run".
