Who Is Hair Loss Worse For? Ugly Or Handsome

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you can trust me, she is HOTTTTTTTTTTT!!! :D

That's what people were saying around these parts a year or so ago when she actually posted some pics. She took them down quickly so I didn't have a chance to save and use them later.
 

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That's what people were saying around these parts a year or so ago when she actually posted some pics. She took them down quickly so I didn't have a chance to save and use them later.

LOLOLOL the last line made me snort laughter...you dirty bird. lol
 

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we MUST figure out something to work for you..

what the f*** is going on that everything is making it worse????

i don't know and it's terrifying. finasteride for one year = loss of probably 30% of what I had left. dutasteride for a month = terrible, untolerable scalp inflammation. RU for almost 11 months now = increased loss, another 20%. I am out of options and out of hair. everything irritates the f*** out of my scalp and makes me lose hair like I am going through chemo. my body is just counter acting everything I suppose.
 

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i don't know and it's terrifying. finasteride for one year = loss of probably 30% of what I had left. dutasteride for a month = terrible, untolerable scalp inflammation. RU for almost 11 months now = increased loss, another 20%. I am out of options and out of hair. everything irritates the f*** out of my scalp and makes me lose hair like I am going through chemo. my body is just counter acting everything I suppose.

did you consult with Doctors?
 

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New member here. I'm not sure who it's worse for, but as someone who with a fullhead was a legit 8.5, I can say that looks define you in a way that they might not for others who aren't as physically attractive, simply because your whole life people are always complimenting you on your appearance, people gravitate towards you etc. You become used to what comes with it. Losing some of that is humbling. Even at age 38, despite being about 50 pounds overweight (I'm 6'1" with broad shoulders, so I carry it well) and losing hair for decades I regularly get complimented on my appearance without me prompting anyone to say it. From age 17-24 I'd frequently get asked if I modeled.

I've had diffuse thinning since 16 years old; fortunately I had such thick hair that now, 22 years later, I'm not totally bald. I'm probably a Norwood 2A but with more temple/side recession and diffusion all over (also about 70-80% bald on the crown too - completely see through in a huge patch). I cannot style my hair in any modern style - it's just too thin and fine and flimsy. The slightest gust of wind would destroy any style no matter how much product I used. I am also heavily diffuse directly in the center front of the hairline, so I'm fighting a losing battle trying to cover/minimize the temple recession as well as somehow hide how absurdly thin the middle front is.

I have no regimen other than Nizoral (I have or at least had in my teens seb derm, and nizoral helps keep the itch away) and a shitload of concealer. I've always been incredibly self-conscious (familial trait) even when I was at my best looking in my late teens, so I do whatever I can to look as good as I can despite the hair loss. I use Toppik fiber spray and powder, rock what I tell myself is a slick combover type of style, and then mold it painstakingly to look full and cover all my problem areas as well as to be undetectable to the eye (it would mortify me if someone found out). I then spray it with enough hairspray to kill a horse and hold it in place so it doesn't move and maintains the illusion. It's actually like performing surgery, how much time and effort I spend (to say nothing of the amount of concealer). I spend up to 3 hours doing my hair the days I actually do it (yes, you read that correctly - 3 hours). That includes shower/shampoo/air drying time, so I can cut it down to 1:45-2:00 in a pinch, though it never looks as good. Fortunately I only have to fix my hair up 2-3 times per week. I wouldn't have the mental energy to do it 7 days/week. I wear a cap the other days. The best days are when I wake up the next morning after having done my hair the previous day and it's passable enough for me to just do a touch-up and go out in public - it's such a pleasure to NOT have to waste 2-3 hours and be able to go outside without a hat.

It's really terrible. I had high hopes for Brutzu lotion, because I refuse to take Finasteride due to all the horror stories, and don't wanna start Minoxidil a) because then you can't stop it, and b) I've heard the initial shed can be intense and I'd die if my hair got any thinner than it is, especially at the hairline. Just terrible what this does to you. I don't deny that my self-consciousness/vanity make it harder than it needs to be for me, but you gotta do what you gotta do, right? I doubt I'd look good with a shaved head.

If you read this all, thanks and kudos to you. :)
 

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New member here. I'm not sure who it's worse for, but as someone who with a fullhead was a legit 8.5, I can say that looks define you in a way that they might not for others who aren't as physically attractive, simply because your whole life people are always complimenting you on your appearance, people gravitate towards you etc. You become used to what comes with it. Losing some of that is humbling. Even at age 38, despite being about 50 pounds overweight (I'm 6'1" with broad shoulders, so I carry it well) and losing hair for decades I regularly get complimented on my appearance without me prompting anyone to say it. From age 17-24 I'd frequently get asked if I modeled.

I've had diffuse thinning since 16 years old; fortunately I had such thick hair that now, 22 years later, I'm not totally bald. I'm probably a Norwood 2A but with more temple/side recession and diffusion all over (also about 70-80% bald on the crown too - completely see through in a huge patch). I cannot style my hair in any modern style - it's just too thin and fine and flimsy. The slightest gust of wind would destroy any style no matter how much product I used. I am also heavily diffuse directly in the center front of the hairline, so I'm fighting a losing battle trying to cover/minimize the temple recession as well as somehow hide how absurdly thin the middle front is.

I have no regimen other than Nizoral (I have or at least had in my teens seb derm, and nizoral helps keep the itch away) and a shitload of concealer. I've always been incredibly self-conscious (familial trait) even when I was at my best looking in my late teens, so I do whatever I can to look as good as I can despite the hair loss. I use Toppik fiber spray and powder, rock what I tell myself is a slick combover type of style, and then mold it painstakingly to look full and cover all my problem areas as well as to be undetectable to the eye (it would mortify me if someone found out). I then spray it with enough hairspray to kill a horse and hold it in place so it doesn't move and maintains the illusion. It's actually like performing surgery, how much time and effort I spend (to say nothing of the amount of concealer). I spend up to 3 hours doing my hair the days I actually do it (yes, you read that correctly - 3 hours). That includes shower/shampoo/air drying time, so I can cut it down to 1:45-2:00 in a pinch, though it never looks as good. Fortunately I only have to fix my hair up 2-3 times per week. I wouldn't have the mental energy to do it 7 days/week. I wear a cap the other days. The best days are when I wake up the next morning after having done my hair the previous day and it's passable enough for me to just do a touch-up and go out in public - it's such a pleasure to NOT have to waste 2-3 hours and be able to go outside without a hat.

It's really terrible. I had high hopes for Brutzu lotion, because I refuse to take Finasteride due to all the horror stories, and don't wanna start Minoxidil a) because then you can't stop it, and b) I've heard the initial shed can be intense and I'd die if my hair got any thinner than it is, especially at the hairline. Just terrible what this does to you. I don't deny that my self-consciousness/vanity make it harder than it needs to be for me, but you gotta do what you gotta do, right? I doubt I'd look good with a shaved head.

If you read this all, thanks and kudos to you. :)
You are NW2A at f*****g 38 and have been beautiful your entire life and here you are complaining. You're not even on treatment wtf??????
Your hairloss is so slow you can probably get a hair transplant without finasteride and be fine aswell.
You have won the genetic lottery, get a hair transplant and go slay. If your NW2A bothers you this much at 38 just get a hair transplant. Problem solved.
Reading this as a 22 year old with worse hairloss than you, just lol.
 

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If you put yourself in his shoes, his anguish is understandable. He reminds me of @Wolf Pack .

My biggest fear as an above average guy was to become ugly, that no girl would ever want me, that people would laugh at me, etc.

But guys like Bklyn? Their biggest fear is to become average it seems. Being treated normally and not like a living god, what a nightmare!

While we shouldn't belittle their pain, I feel that these guys need some perspective.

An average NW4 22 year old who sees a good-looking 38 year old NW2A saying that his situation is "terrible".

Hard to stomach.
f*****g LOL TBH.
His 'problems' are fixed easily. He has genetics of the gods at 6'1 broad frame, and people have been saying he should model.
Yet he somehow complains about his miniscule problems.
1. Get a hair transplant ((or TRY treatment)(can't believe he hasn't even tried at 38 years old)).
2. Lose the 50 pounds.
Now you're back to being good looking WOOP DEE DOO.
 

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You are NW2A at f*****g 38 and have been beautiful your entire life and here you are complaining. You're not even on treatment wtf??????
Your hairloss is so slow you can probably get a hair transplant without finasteride and be fine aswell.
You have won the genetic lottery, get a hair transplant and go slay. If your NW2A bothers you this much at 38 just get a hair transplant. Problem solved.
Reading this as a 22 year old with worse hairloss than you, just lol.

I apologize if my post came off as demeaning in any way, or if it seems trivial to those who have worse balding than I do. I'm not sure what Norwood I am - I said 2A because that's roughly where my middle front hairline starts; however, my temple recession is probably pushing a Norwood 3. I'm also very diffuse all over, including my lower sides and back (which I read were never supposed to thin out for anyone). My crown also has a gigantic irregular shaped patch (about the size of my fist) that is 80% bald and completely see-through. I'm not saying I have it worse than you or anyone else, only that I probably have it worse than my original post may have conveyed.

Re: a transplant, my donor area is also very diffuse, and as I said I have the huge bald crown as well - where are they going to take the hair from if there's little/none there? I don't feel I'm a good candidate, especially considering that my hair continues to diffusely thin out all over, so it will thin around the transplanted areas. Still, I may go for a consult one day.
 

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I apologize if my post came off as demeaning in any way, or if it seems trivial to those who have worse balding than I do. I'm not sure what Norwood I am - I said 2A because that's roughly where my middle front hairline starts; however, my temple recession is probably pushing a Norwood 3. I'm also very diffuse all over, including my lower sides and back (which I read were never supposed to thin out for anyone). My crown also has a gigantic irregular shaped patch (about the size of my fist) that is 80% bald and completely see-through. I'm not saying I have it worse than you or anyone else, only that I probably have it worse than my original post may have conveyed.

Re: a transplant, my donor area is also very diffuse, and as I said I have the huge bald crown as well - where are they going to take the hair from if there's little/none there? I don't feel I'm a good candidate, especially considering that my hair continues to diffusely thin out all over, so it will thin around the transplanted areas. Still, I may go for a consult one day.
You should definitely go for a consult and/or TRY treatment (shampoo doesn't count) as your spending 3 hours on your hair and obviously care alot about it.
 

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Also, WhitePolarBear, PatrickBateman - my post was intended to convey not my physical superiority, but rather the idea that, no matter one's level of attractiveness, we become accustomed to the circumstances of our life. Changing that psychologically is difficult for anyone.

I should also add that in real life I'm a "social introvert," who does go out but who will rarely initiate conversation. My looks have always helped "get me in the door" with women. Losing that (even though as I said I haven't fully lost it yet) is scary. I can talk with the best of them - once I open up to someone, or the times where I really put myself out there, I do well. But it's not my core personality. I'm a thinker.
 

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Also, WhitePolarBear, PatrickBateman - my post was intended to convey not my physical superiority, but rather the idea that, no matter one's level of attractiveness, we become accustomed to the circumstances of our life. Changing that psychologically is difficult for anyone.

I should also add that in real life I'm a "social introvert," who does go out but who will rarely initiate conversation. My looks have always helped "get me in the door" with women. Losing that (even though as I said I haven't fully lost it yet) is scary. I can talk with the best of them - once I open up to someone, or the times where I really put myself out there, I do well. But it's not my core personality. I'm a thinker.
I understand what you're trying to do, and hairloss sucks for everyone I agree. But, when you do it it's like you have lost a toe, meanwhile we have lost our legs. And then you ask us to feel bad for you.
 

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I understand what you're trying to do. But, when you do it's like you have lost a toe, meanwhile we have lost our legs. And then you ask us to feel bad for you.

I don't recall asking anyone to feel bad for me. I thought we were commiserating here lol. I also acknowledged that my self-consciousness/vanity likely make this worse than it has to be for me. I'm not a normal person in that respect - I'm aware it's a sickness.

EDIT: Also, keep in mind that while I do still get complimented on my looks frequently enough, I almost certainly wouldn't if I didn't use gobs of concealer and painstakingly craft my hair illusion for hours on end.
 

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This makes me think about alimony.

I've read somewhere that it exists because the wife has been accustomed to a certain lifestyle and it would be psychologically too difficult for her to give it up.

Hey, I never denied being b**ch-made (to use a term - I'm no misogynist) when it comes to my appearance lol.
 
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