Why Do People Start To Think You Are A Pedo If You Are Balding Or Have A Receded Hairline

[JeanLucBB]

Dante is not NW1 though, and he has admitted to being 4/10 at NW1.

All I'm saying is he should get ripped, get a transplant for norwood 1, then go on Okcupid and message 100 girls that list "casual sex" as what they are looking for and at least 5 of them will be dtf within 30 seconds of asking them for the puss.

 

[SmoothSailing]

There's nothing worse than hypocritical, fake pity.

But this isn't always the case. People genuinely wonder whether or not people really are incel because of the amount of people who mistakenly view themselves as such.

 

[JeanLucBB]

Ah no, this is not realistic, not even close.

On OKcupid, I would have maybe 1 lay out of 100 messages as a 6'3 6/10 virtually NW2.5 guy.

I don't think you realize how hard it is on the online dating scene.

Maybe there is something making them extra horny here in Australia. I'm a 6/10 norwood 3 and I have TOO MANY options that I have to cut the bad ones out even if they are dtf. Also Feabie is good if you are happy to settle for fat chicks or have a fetish for them and they can be pretty crazy. I keep organising dates or roots but then bailing or ghosting because I feel embarrassed about my hair. There is one I organised to meet in Istanbul this weekend but I'll probably pussy out cos my head will get shaved on Fri before Monday transplant.

 

[Dench57]

I'm just pointing out that the chance that he's that ugly is insanely low

Why?

 

[SmoothSailing]

Maybe there is something making them extra horny here in Australia. I'm a 6/10 norwood 3 and I have TOO MANY options that I have to cut the bad ones out even if they are dtf. Also Feabie is good if you are happy to settle for fat chicks or have a fetish for them and they can be pretty crazy. I keep organising dates or roots but then bailing or ghosting because I feel embarrassed about my hair. There is one I organised to meet in Istanbul this weekend but I'll probably pussy out cos my head will get shaved on Fri before Monday transplant.

Seems likely either you have very low standards or are better looking than you think. No 6/10 I know has close to "too many options" online dating.

 

[JeanLucBB]

Why?

He probably is currently, I just can't think of any guys too ugly to get a 6/10 girl who have aesthetic, fit bodies and a norwood 1. Literally none. My point is he is probably fixable to the point of a 4/10

 

[Dench57]

He probably is currently, I just can't think of any guys too ugly to get a 6/10 girl who have aesthetic, fit bodies and a norwood 1. Literally none. My point is he is probably fixable to the point of a 4/10

What difference is your body going to make if you have a 3/10 face?

 

[JeanLucBB]

Well, that explains everything.

Chick on the right was down to meet in Istanbul from Okcupid. I'll pork her and post the video with my pre and post ops

 

[JeanLucBB]

You're a 8/10, you goddamn fraud.

Na I'm just into weird indie and arthouse films, literature and obscure music which Okcupid girls love.

 

[SmoothSailing]

Na I'm just into weird indie and arthouse films, literature and obscure music which Okcupid girls love.

Use Dante's pictures and see if your love of art-house films still get's you that type of girl

 

[Rudiger]

I agree, but to answer your question; BDD is rampant nowadays. Before confirming someone is 2/10 I still think there's a decent chance they just view themselves as such. I have not confirmed Dante's appearance but I now believe him based on everything I've heard.

But the initial assumption that someone isn't as ugly as they say is not an unreasonable assumption. Just look to some users here such as xander or baldhurts. Without picture confirmation it would be easy to view these as a genuine incel (exander) or as an average-ish guy (baldhurts).

I don't think I'm coping by presuming a large percentage of people on these "incel" forums are not genuinely incel.

Sure it's not an unreasonable assumption, but Christ what a risk to take. Telling someone hes probably average, and asking for a picture? As I say, what if he really is that bad looking? Then lies.

Again, if anyone wants a picture of him fine, but why assume anything beforehand? I think hope over-rides logic and thinking things through.

I still feel we'll tell ugly people they must be fine because it's too hard to deal with the inconvenience of the truth.

No I'm not saying that because it's uncomfortable to deal with which is a totally bogus statement, I'm just pointing out that the chance that he's that ugly is insanely low, and even he can't truly know until he's seen himself with a norwood 1 and is in good shape. I couldn't care less about making someone uncomfortable, I do it all the time.

There's no reason why the chance would be extremely low, except we all live in the hope that we don't have to deal with ugliness.

To go back to my original sentiment, this has little to do with Dante really.

What kinda annoys me is the "I'm sure you're fine man" attitude, as if real ugly people don't exist, because we want everyone to be fine and at least average looking and have a hope of getting laid. It undermines the truly ugly people's existence, whether Dante is one or not.

 

[JeanLucBB]

Sure it's not an unreasonable assumption, but Christ what a risk to take. Telling someone hes probably average, and asking for a picture? As I say, what if he really is that bad looking? Then lies.

Again, if anyone wants a picture of him fine, but why assume anything beforehand? I think hope over-rides logic and thinking things through.

I still feel we'll tell ugly people they must be fine because it's too hard to deal with the inconvenience of the truth.



There's no reason why the chance would be extremely low, except we all live in the hope that we don't have to deal with ugliness.

To go back to my original sentiment, this has little to do with Dante really.

What kinda annoys me is the "I'm sure you're fine man" attitude, as if real ugly people don't exist, because we want everyone to be fine and at least average looking and have a hope of getting laid. It undermines the truly ugly people's existence, whether Dante is one or not.

They do, but one can always find ways to better themselves.

 

[Dante92]

They do, but one can always find ways to better themselves.

 

[SmoothSailing]

I still feel we'll tell ugly people they must be fine because it's too hard to deal with the inconvenience of the truth.

This is very widespread, I agree. But waiting for proof before "assuming anything beforehand" is not unreasonable. Taking people for their word on the internet is rarely good enough. And for incels it's not good enough in my opinion.

What kinda annoys me is the "I'm sure you're fine man" attitude, as if real ugly people don't exist, because we want everyone to be fine and at least average looking and have a hope of getting laid. It undermines the truly ugly people's existence, whether Dante is one or not.

What also undermines a true ugly persons existence is non-ugly people claiming, or believing, they are ugly.

 

[SmoothSailing]

Yeah, that's not my case, as I already explained. From what I wrote and my experiences it should be clear I'm not even remotely average-looking, and if I were, I would be f*****g aware of it for f***'s sake, I'm not stupid nor delusional, and I'm surely not a bipolar sicko.

I didn't say it was your case, in fact I mentioned earlier that I believed you. I still do not blame people for being skeptical. I don't consider it "coping" or "hopeful", I consider it logical given the large amount of bdd.

 

[Rudiger]

They do, but one can always find ways to better themselves.

And cry themselves to sleep even more when they realise all their efforts were absolutely pointless, not only being ugly but now also stupid and deluded for thinking they could pump a few weights and find a woman.

This is very widespread, I agree. But waiting for proof before "assuming anything beforehand" is not unreasonable.

I was saying that making any assumptions beforehand, with such a touchy subject, is risky and yeah, unreasonable. So I agree, waiting for proof before making assumptions is reasonable, which isn't what happened here.

What also undermines a true ugly persons existence is non-ugly people claiming, or believing, they are ugly.

Fine I agree completely but again, nobody knows until there's proof. So I'd say this is also a presumptuous statement really.

Indeed you're right here, and both things are undermining ugly people's issues, but bringing up your latter point is irrelevant until we know it's actually happening.

I don't believe you're questioning him in the hope he isn't ugly, I think you're just curious or participating in this discussion. However most people who pop up with this "I'm sure you're fine bud" attitude are indeed hoping he's good looking, and I believe it's fuelled by fear of having to deal with or give advice to a properly ugly person.

Although I haven't said such a stupid thing to Dante, I also live by these basic aesthetic fears and instincts to protect myself against ugliness of all forms. But I at least recognise this ain't right, it's really the only hope any of us have of curing our ridiculous primal instincts.

 

[SmoothSailing]

I don't believe you're questioning him in the hope he isn't ugly, I think you're just curious or participating in this discussion. However most people who pop up with this "I'm sure you're fine bud" attitude are indeed hoping he's good looking, and I believe it's fuelled by fear of having to deal with or give advice to a properly ugly person.

I'll actually admit that I had a moment of self awareness, after first seeing Dante's half-hidden photo's I immediately thought "he's bdd, I'm sure of it". But after some other members here shut me down I realized that in a way I really just wanted that to be true. Such a relatable, smart guy, I didn't want to believe it.

I think it's a seriously pervasive mindset; people viewing the world as they wished it were rather than how it is. So pervasive that even though I've been aware of this mindset for years, I know it must still affect me very often.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

I'd be genuinely interested in how an advanced balding man with roughly a 5 out of 10 face would do on pof and tinder.

Someone like this:

I wonder if they could get average looking women with a little effort?

 

[resu]

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Chick on the right was down to meet in Istanbul from Okcupid. I'll pork her and post the video with my pre and post ops

Those are quite the eyebrows.

 

[Rudiger]

But after some other members here shut me down I realized that in a way I really just wanted that to be true. Such a relatable, smart guy, I didn't want to believe it.

It's hard to accept about ourselves really. But yes, I just think it's awful that ugliness is so undesirable, that we don't want to believe it exists.

We claim to value things like intelligence, as you say, but in the same breath, put huge emphasis on the importance of aesthetics.

We're all hypocrites really, it'll never truly change completely because that's how we're wired. But at least appreciating that unwanted truth brings us closer to a dialogue about it, and not just wishing the ugly away.