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[SmoothSailing]

What does a good personality even consist of? Not being fucked mentally and being able to hold a conversation?

Great personality = great looks.

It's all halo effect. The only way to actually have a bad personality is to be seriously fucked up. Taking pride in your good personality is like taking pride in wearing socks without holes in them.

So you've never met a good looking a**h**? Or a funny ugly person?

No doubt when it comes to dating/sex good looks are paramount, and the halo affect is definitely real even for other encounters.

 

[Rudiger]

What does a good personality even consist of? Not being fucked mentally and being able to hold a conversation?

Great personality = great looks.

It's all halo effect. The only way to actually have a bad personality is to be seriously fucked up. Taking pride in your good personality is like taking pride in wearing socks without holes in them.

Hahaha this is so Bateman.

It's actually how I feel when I evaluate my attraction to a female, as long as she's basically not retarded or imbalanced, we're good to go. And that depresses me, in a way it makes all humans, including me, incredible banal and not remotely extraordinary.

But it's not true, and I rarely truly feel like that. I actually feel the majority of people have incredibly obvious flaws from the get go, capable of ruining their personality and potential instantly.

Then there's the rest, without obvious flaws, but dig a little deeper and you'll get there, and it can be uglier than those with obvious flaws.

I really think that if you truly believe, all of the time, that personality is as simple as this quote, you probably don't study or evaluate people thoroughly. Most of us are f*****g insufferable.

In the oddest way this actually comes as a relief to me, that even though I thoroughly dislike most people and find them unremarkable, it at least reminds me that we're all uniquely different, with only some similar traits.

Only in a depressed nihilistic way do I ever feel like "f***- us humans sure are simple folk, learn to tie your shoe laces and talk about the weather and suddenly you're an actual member of society".

But it's not as simple as that, and to me it's a relief.

 

[Patrick_Bateman]

So you've never met a good looking a**h**? Or a funny ugly person?

No doubt when it comes to dating/sex good looks are paramount, and the halo affect is definitely real even for other encounters.

I should have specified that I'm talking about people I would like to have sex with. Then a "good personality" consists of being good looking, and basic common decency.

If an ugly girl has an actual good personality and you're able to talk to her about things you find interesting, what does it matter? She's still ugly. If a hot girl is boring to talk to, it doesn't matter, she still gets your dink hard.

The truth is personality doesn't matter in the world of dating.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

I should have specified that I'm talking about people I would like to have sex with. Then a "good personality" consists of being good looking, and basic common decency.

If an ugly girl has an actual good personality and you're able to talk to her about things you find interesting, what does it matter? She's still ugly. If a hot girl is boring to talk to, it doesn't matter, she still gets your dink hard.

The truth is personality doesn't matter in the world of dating.

Yeah, I think its only personality that swings it when someone is borderline - when you have someone who is a 5 or something but they have lots of other things going for them, so people accept the faults.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

I would have no problem with people being insufferable if it was not actually making my own life harder.

The more I improve, the more sh*t I get from people who don't want to improve. And yes I'm mostly talking about gymcelling here, because that's an improvement that you cannot question. It's just there for the world to see, unlike 'becoming more confident' for example.

The other day, I got my very first positive comment: "Man, is it just me or have you been getting bigger lately?!" Of course it was from a tall, good-looking guy who's mostly at peace with himself and has lifted weights before.

From most people though, all you hear is jealousy, from my own best friend mocking me that I've "only" gained 4 kg of muscle (in 4 months, the guy thinks it's actually possible to do better) and that you can't even tell the difference, to snide remarks from colleagues about how I only do this out of vanity.

I'm not going to lie, I was totally expecting reactions like these. f*****g human nature.

Good for you, man.

I do think it is harder to tell weight gain on a tall person but it will be noticeable to anyone paying attention.

Hopefully you will look great for July/Aug

 

[blackg]

I would have no problem with people being insufferable if it was not actually making my own life harder.

The more I improve, the more sh*t I get from people who don't want to improve. And yes I'm mostly talking about gymcelling here, because that's an improvement that you cannot question. It's just there for the world to see, unlike 'becoming more confident' for example.

The other day, I got my very first positive comment: "Man, is it just me or have you been getting bigger lately?!" Of course it was from a tall, good-looking guy who's mostly at peace with himself and has lifted weights before.

From most people though, all you hear is jealousy, from my own best friend mocking me that I've "only" gained 4 kg of muscle (in 4 months, the guy thinks it's actually possible to do better) and that you can't even tell the difference, to snide remarks from colleagues about how I only do this out of vanity.

I'm not going to lie, I was totally expecting reactions like these. f*****g human nature.

Didn't you have the exact same reactions to gymcelling only a short time ago?

 

[blackg]

Yes, I'm a hypocrite, burn me at the stake!

Will do.

 

[Rudiger]

^Wonderful exchange.

This is just a theory on Fred's more open minded attitude on here lately, of course he can correct me here.

But as someone who was so incredibly anti-gymcel a short time ago, and now finds himself enjoying not just the aesthetic results, but the process itself (which I'm sure he saw as a pointless waste of time) it's opened him up to different possibilities and thought processes in all ways.

He may not even agree that he's more open minded than before, maybe I'm speaking completely out of turn. But athletic ambition is as valid of a reason as any to be life changing, plenty of people have more bizarre reasons, but if something can completely alter your previous opinion on it so quickly and drastically, I believe it opens up a million doors.

 

[Patrick_Bateman]

Yes, I'm a hypocrite, burn me at the stake!

I don't think so. You are allowed to have an opinion then change your mind. Imagine a world where you would have to have the same opinions for the rest of your life. I change my mind about things all the time.

It would be hypocritical if you had been going to the gym while saying it was a waste of time, but changing your mind isn't hypocritical.

 

[resu]

It's always a pleasure to wait for blackg's comments.

Fred's is right, as always. It not only works for people becoming more attractive, though, it also works with jealosy at the workplace. In my case, my colleagues started to treat me like dirt after my boss complimented me a couple of times on my work in front of everyone months ago (quite embarrassing). Needless to say, I had to be put back in my place.

There's a reason for that, they want to put you in your place, it's comforting for them to know there's someone that will always be beneath them, that is in a worse situation than them, more miserable, etc... and once that person starts removing the old shell they want to put them back in.

In essence, people want to pigeonhole other people, to put them in little boxes.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

There's a reason for that, they want to put you in your place, it's comforting for them to know there's someone that will always be beneath them, that is in a worse situation than them, more miserable, etc... and once that person starts removing the old shell they want to put them back in.

Yep, studies on apes has revealed similar behaviour. They, much like us, all seek social status and sometimes by putting the weaker ones down do they show their high status.

 

[SmoothSailing]

There's a reason for that, they want to put you in your place, it's comforting for them to know there's someone that will always be beneath them, that is in a worse situation than them, more miserable, etc... and once that person starts removing the old shell they want to put them back in.

In essence, people want to pigeonhole other people, to put them in little boxes.

Can confirm. Back when I had bad social anxiety my friends would postulate that they wanted me to be more social, but when I'd have a rare occasion of talking/joking often someone would put me down. In a deliberate way. Something that they know would disrupt me. "Oh so you're talking for once, haha!".

It was quite infuriating for a while, one of many obstacles I had to pass in order to come out of my shell.

 

[resu]

Can confirm. Back when I had bad social anxiety my friends would postulate that they wanted me to be more social, but when I'd have a rare occasion of talking/joking often someone would put me down. In a deliberate way. Something that they know would disrupt me. "Oh so you're talking for once, haha!".

It was quite infuriating for a while, one of many obstacles I had to pass in order to come out of my shell.

That happened in high-school aka "living hell" quite frequently to me, I wasn't very talkative because I didn't like the school colleagues that I had to endure and in the times that I were they would always point that out, "oh look at you, you're very talkative today" in a mocking matter. They didn't like that I was capable of being talkative and that other people were enjoying my company and immediately tried to bring me down. Anxiety was through the roof back then too.

Same thing with girlfriends, I would always hide the fact that I was with someone, even my mother tried to ruin my relationships with other people, then would ask why I never had a girlfriend! This was when I was still young but it just shows how people are and if you don't have the right tool set you will have a very hard time socially, I always knew this.

 

[Exodus2011]

the red pill is hard to swallow no matter how deep into it you get

Like seriously, being face to face with legit bad genes is just damn. It sucks f*****g *** even by proxy

You can get somewhat used to it though. A lot of very low IQ and ugly people in the southern trash heap i live in and ive at least gotten a bit accustomed.

We're talking stephen king rural area tier, screaming unintelligibly about burning in hellfire. And literally looking like orcs lol. I even feel embarassed mentioning them

Usually they chill with others who are ugly and dumb as well though, so they can have normal lives

 

[blackg]

In essence, people want to pigeonhole other people, to put them in little boxes.

A bit like saying "all women are untrustworthy b****s."
It's an easy answer for the frustrated incel.

 

[Roberto_72]

A hot girl like that wouldn't meet me in a million years no matter her or my musical tastes, you good-looking guys live in a f*****g bubble.

This. Good looking guys who have success with hot "intellectual" women probably think we listen to One Direction Radio and haven't seen Reservoir Dogs.

 

[Roberto_72]

Yep, @Dante92 is not even unsuccessful in life.

I guess Italy must be as bad as he says, even we should always be cautious of someone claiming that everyone in such country is like this or like that. Reality is always more complex.

I've just watched the movie 'La Grande Bellezza' and if most Italian people have the mentality shown in that movie, that's bad news for unattractive people in that country.

I think since Dante is successful in his job, he has to interact with high-class members of the Italian society, which as shown in that movie are often attractive egotistical and judgmental pricks.

Yes, you're correct, and yes, it's just As that movie shows, and even worse, As italians are also spineless hypocrites and sycophants.

I've genuinely only ever met nice Italians - they are usually a lot more outgoing and friendly than most nationalities.

But I guess dante know's best as he's been in Italy longer than I have.

Let me say that I don't care for Italians although I share their nationality.

However, in my opinion @Dante92 is in a peculiar situation because he lives in the "capital of fashion" and "capital of finance". In that city, only two things are important:
- how you look and dress
- how much money you have in the bank
There are simpler realities around. If you just go to Turin, which is 150 kms away and probably counts as many inhabitants as Milan, people are much more agreeable and will never take a second look at your shoes.

Everybody hates Milan in Italy, because in Milan they are snobs.

I don't hate it at all because I found many good people (from outside ) . Dante, WTF move already

 

[resu]

Yes, move alright, but away from Italy altogether. You have been working abroad for some time, yeah, thank you, so you don't really know what it is like, but I do: sure, Milan is worse than other cities, but be it Venice, Rome, Florence or Turin, the shitty mentality and shitty people are all the same. I worked in 3 different cities (for short periods of time of course), but they treated me like sh*t anyway because of my appearance. It's only a matter of the degree of shallowness, hypocrisy and misery of Italians. I've alwatys been judged and shunned for my appearance, wherever I went, so it would not make a difference (I don't even talk about Southern Italy, even shittier people). My only option is to go abroad, and I'm working on it.

It's bad everywhere, in England they make ribbing a national pass-time.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

It's bad everywhere, in England they make ribbing a national pass-time.

Sure, but most of us are legit joking. I notice some of the foreign guys on here don't get my humour and I have to remind myself that they are not from the british culture where we take the piss out of ourselves and others.

Its the art of self deprecation - you cannot take yourself seriously - if you do then people will mock you. If you tease yourself then people will see you as fun guy.

People who cant take the piss out of themselves and other foreingers are often seen as 'up' themselves.

 

[Dsport]

I would have sued the crap out of that complex

My Dad was once asked to leave a swimming pool because some mother was scared he was a pedophile. He was there with his 5 kids. He's way beyond the point of giving a f*** and just laughed when the lifeguard asked him to leave. Said "you can ring the police if you like, I'm staying with my kids".