Why there will NEVER be a cure for baldness

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The sad truth is there are many diseases that need cures, and hair loss is not as profitable or "morally" attractive to pursue as many others. In some way the OP is right, traditional pharmaceuticals aren't ideal for curing disease, but they are cheap and easy. For decades the technology was not there to move beyond this, and there was little motivation to invest in it as profits were rolling in and investments in new technology are risky. This dynamic has changed in the last decade. Technology is there to pursue better options, and the race is on to be the first one to cross the finish line with more advanced medicines like gene therapy, immunotherapies, mAbs, cellular reprogramming, etc. The cure is coming.
what do you think of "oh he wants hair enough to get a transplant. what vanity" people.
 

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Tldr

Sociology fresher by any chance?
Sociology is built on social instinct (the cerebral cortex). She is about 10 thousand years old, while the animal (reptilian brain) is about 500 million. Everything you do, you end up doing for the sake of animal instinct.
 

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There are thousands of new balding guys born every day. The supply of customers never "runs out" no matter how long a treatment lasts.
I still have to encounter an argument why it matters to have repeat customers instead of just the total sum of money "the industry" can make on a individual.
 

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This thread is dumb as f*** lol. You can charge $100K to end baldness forever in an human and they would pay it instead of paying monthly bucks for chronic medication. Basic supply and demand stuff.

New people are born every day, the customer base is literally infinite demand forever. Half of humans are male, and around half of them will develop baldness before 40. The potential customer base is literally 25% of the entire planet population.

Baldness cure is coming, and the price for it will adjust accordingly. It would be much better business than chronic medication.
 

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This thread is dumb as f*** lol. You can charge $100K to end baldness forever in an human and they would pay it instead of paying monthly bucks for chronic medication. Basic supply and demand stuff.

New people are born every day, the customer base is literally infinite demand forever. Half of humans are male, and around half of them will develop baldness before 40. The potential customer base is literally 25% of the entire planet population.

Baldness cure is coming, and the price for it will adjust accordingly. It would be much better business than chronic medication.
I think it is obvious that a cure will one day appear. OP didn't choose the best title. He was probably frustrated. No need to be angry about it.

But, yeah... The cure will take a long time to be available to the majority of people.
 

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Like everything it would be very expensive at first and become more mainstream over time.

Things like Rhinoplasty and Breast Implants were only for very very rich people initially and it is pretty affordable and mainstream nowdays. They give you tits or a nose "forever" and its a good business with never ending clients. (Just to show an example)
 

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Like everything it would be very expensive at first and become more mainstream over time.

Things like Rhinoplasty and Breast Implants were only for very very rich people initially and it is pretty affordable and mainstream nowdays. They give you tits or a nose "forever" and its a good business with never ending clients. (Just to show an example)
Your emotions speak. To begin with, let it appear, for now, we see only loud promises, without real results. We need to understand what kind of future we are talking about, maybe what will happen in 100 years? Well, yes, maybe there will be no more bald people. Everyone here is interested in their own life and the medicine that will improve this life for them today, while they are still alive, not when they are 70-80 age.
 

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Like everything it would be very expensive at first and become more mainstream over time.

Things like Rhinoplasty and Breast Implants were only for very very rich people initially and it is pretty affordable and mainstream nowdays. They give you tits or a nose "forever" and its a good business with never ending clients. (Just to show an example)
Time is the key issue. Not money. Not the supply of costumers.

Ppl talk about 5,10 years like it was nothing. It is a lot of time. I entered in this forum in 2016. My life and ideas are totally different today. In 5 years I might not even care about a cure for hair loss anymore. In 5 years froggy might be a popsicle already. In 5 years China might invade Taiwan and USA will have to fight in huge war. Iran might get nuclear weapons. You may die. Your loved one may die. Your friends may die.

5 years is a lot of time. This cure will probably need more time than that to be released. It will need a lot of time to be affordable.

We have finite lives. Dealing with hair loss with the weapons we have today is the wisest approach.
 

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There is literally a cure for a huge amount of bald people - hair transplants.
You will never get the density you had with 18 but you will never go completely bald if you don't want to. Look at Zarev, Eugenix etc. They literally cure dudes up to nw6.

Most people can get 2-3 hair transplants.

Plus you have the option to create more (cosmetical) density with good SMP.

Plus there are a ton of upcoming treatments that will either regrow hair or at least halt the hair loss.

I understand when people get frustrated (me includee) but look at the opportunities we have today, that weren't there 10-15 years ago.
 

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There is literally a cure for a huge amount of bald people - hair transplants.
You will never get the density you had with 18 but you will never go completely bald if you don't want to. Look at Zarev, Eugenix etc. They literally cure dudes up to nw6.

Most people can get 2-3 hair transplants.

Plus you have the option to create more (cosmetical) density with good SMP.

Plus there are a ton of upcoming treatments that will either regrow hair or at least halt the hair loss.

I understand when people get frustrated (me includee) but look at the opportunities we have today, that weren't there 10-15 years ago.
SMP turns blue. It feels pathetic to get ink tattooed to your head to look like hair. I guess it's a good option for some people, but it doesn't solve my problem which is that about 30,000 of my organs are missing. I can't run my hands through smp. It wouldn't make me feel any better than being bald.

I get your point that we have more options, especially if you are just starting to bald. On the other hand millions of us still have no effective solution
 

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SMP turns blue. It feels pathetic to get ink tattooed to your head to look like hair. I guess it's a good option for some people, but it doesn't solve my problem which is that about 30,000 of my organs are missing. I can't run my hands through smp. It wouldn't make me feel any better than being bald.

I get your point that we have more options, especially if you are just starting to bald. On the other hand millions of us still have no effective solution
Sadly, it is what it is, like most things in the universe. Unless a person has the skills and/or the resources to change their reality, they can do nothing but wait for a solution to come to them. That applies to most of us. The ppl without secondary options will suffer the most (sorry).

I would like to postpone this problem like I did in my early 20s but I can't give me the luxury of having faith in a possible cure anymore. Today I feel like my hands are tied and I will probably have to use finasteride for the rest of my life. Or at least for several long years to come.

Somethings simply are out of our control.
 
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Like everything it would be very expensive at first and become more mainstream over time.

Things like Rhinoplasty and Breast Implants were only for very very rich people initially and it is pretty affordable and mainstream nowdays. They give you tits or a nose "forever" and its a good business with never ending clients. (Just to show an example)
You missed the point of my post.

No companies that can make sh*t happen are investing in it. They just don’t see the point. And you should know how the corporate world works, if anyone suggests in the meeting room we can make it profitable in 50 or so years when prices come down and our patent expires he will be laughed at.

There are real serious issues plaguing humanity that can be easily cured. I will mention something that’s close to heart ie antibiotic resistance. Big pharma have completely abandoned it and there are so many fringe researchers and little biotechs coming up with genius antibiotics but guess what they will never make it to the market because they don’t have the money. Millions of people die every year from antibiotic resistance. If big pharma invests in this then we would have antibiotics to which germs can’t acquire resistance and that means millions of lives saved, in fact such antibiotics have been discovered already. Why is big pharma not investing? They can’t make a profit in the short term, they will get their investment back in 50 years or 100 years even with generics but that’s not profitable enough for them.

You think happiness of baldies is more important to them than saving lives?

They are under no obligation anyway, their sole focus is to make money. And invest which makes more sense. A cure for baldness isn’t profitable
 

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SMP turns blue. It feels pathetic to get ink tattooed to your head to look like hair. I guess it's a good option for some people, but it doesn't solve my problem which is that about 30,000 of my organs are missing. I can't run my hands through smp. It wouldn't make me feel any better than being bald.

I get your point that we have more options, especially if you are just starting to bald. On the other hand millions of us still have no effective solution

Why do you ignore the hair transplant? I read in another post from you that you are wealthy, so you can easily afford Zarev.
You will get 20.000-25.000 of your organs back and then close the chapter of hairloss.
 

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Why do you ignore the hair transplant? I read in another post from you that you are wealthy, so you can easily afford Zarev.
You will get 20.000-25.000 of your organs back and then close the chapter of hairloss.
Transplant doesn't give organs back, it just moves them around. I know I won't be satisfied with a subpar head of hair, which is what a hair transplant will give me. Zarev is overrated
 

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Why do you ignore the hair transplant? I read in another post from you that you are wealthy, so you can easily afford Zarev.
You will get 20.000-25.000 of your organs back and then close the chapter of hairloss.
zarev has patients with good hair diameters i think. if you have good hair diameters you can have a decent result even with high norwoods as long as you dont go into the water. many europeans with fine hair are fucked though
 

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Your standards are very high bro.
They are. Zarev is a good option for many people, but he harvests outside the safe zone. Personally I'm ok with my looks shaved. Getting back to a thin NW2 isn't going to make me feel that much better like a thick NW1 with a still dense donor zone would. Everyone is different.
 

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If HMI-115 turns out to be as potent as we hope it is, then having existing transplants might actually worsen your net total outcome.

HMI seems to revive existing follicles that are dormant because of baldness. Transplants tend to hack up the recipient area, which would destroy a lot of them.


If you aren't holding out for teenage perfection (and assuming your transplant work is not a hackjob) then it's probably nothing to worry too much about. HMI + good transplants = probably still a much improved outcome over transplants alone.

HMI probably offers the best gains in the top & crown (speculation on my part). Nobody gets truly dense transplant coverage on the crown because it's just too big. The best-looking crown transplants are only about half density. They look dense because of hair characteristics and implanting artistry (and flattering photo conditions).


Bottom line, transplants would be an unknown variable for the HMI treatment. You might even end up with more total density in the transplanted areas than nature gave you, and I'm not sure how that would work out.
 

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Yeah HMI-115 + high density temple transplant for ridiculous hairline (in that order) is the closest chance we have for a legit cure.

In my case I just can't afford waiting anymore, it affects me too much so i'm going for a transplant. In essence a transplant is just moving follicles around. When they transplant a follicle in an area that already had minituarized follicles the old follicle simply dies and its lost.

The ideal transplant would be a "double transplant" where they can literally swap your back hair for your front hair without losing any follicles but doctors don't bother doing that and just let them die.
 
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