3 month hair growth results without using minoxidil or propecia(GREAT RESULTS)

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I fully get that...even at my worst peak I refused to take that crap. I noticed people are scared of estrogenic side effects but I and others who have taken it have had no sides whatsoever. Minoxidil and finasteride have nasty side effects like collagen interference and shrinkage of genetilia but then people are scared of bi-estro cream which has no side effects.

If you can go through a natural route and gain far greater results than minoxidil then take that opportunity. I sent turbofixer more photos to testify my results. I'll be coming off this routine in either end of december or end of January with thickened hair.
 

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I fully get that...even at my worst peak I refused to take that crap. I noticed people are scared of estrogenic side effects but I and others who have taken it have had no sides whatsoever. Minoxidil and finasteride have nasty side effects like collagen interference and shrinkage of genetilia but then people are scared of bi-estro cream which has no side effects.

If you can go through a natural route and gain far greater results than minoxidil then take that opportunity. I sent turbofixer more photos to testify my results. I'll be coming off this routine in either end of december or end of January with thickened hair.
Natural route.

Full blown estradiol and estriol.

Pick one.
 

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Natural route.

Full blown estradiol and estriol.

Pick one.


Weren't you that guy who asked me to break down my routine and here you are being disrespectful.


Go do it without estradiol or estriol if it's such a big deal
 

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Is Taeian still following this protocol or have modified it again? I read an old post of him at bodybuilding forum and he seemed to change to this.
 

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Is Taeian still following this protocol or have modified it again? I read an old post of him at bodybuilding forum and he seemed to change to this.


the last modification he did was adding bi-estro cream & derm pen if I am correct. Whenever he's in the mood to regain his hair he goes back on it.

The latest update is on his site.
 
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is there any clinical data in topical applications of this cream or other similar products showing systemic absorption or side effects in people who use it.
 

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Just don’t eat carbs, bread etc. Eat veg and tofu and use topical Dutasteride
 

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Weren't you that guy who asked me to break down my routine and here you are being disrespectful.


Go do it without estradiol or estriol if it's such a big deal
Came of disrespectful. Just don't like when people claim its good because its "natural" or "unnatural".

I don't have anything against the protocol, I think it might be great actually, its just not natural, which is not a bad thing. "Natural" treatments only worked on rats and on human hair in vitro, never in vivo.
Estrogens do antagonize androgen receptors and act like anti androgens and they inhibit 5ar activity so its sort of stronger than finasteride when it comes to net anti andorgenic effect.
 

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were you ever on fina
 

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Came of disrespectful. Just don't like when people claim its good because its "natural" or "unnatural".

I don't have anything against the protocol, I think it might be great actually, its just not natural, which is not a bad thing. "Natural" treatments only worked on rats and on human hair in vitro, never in vivo.
Estrogens do antagonize androgen receptors and act like anti androgens and they inhibit 5ar activity so its sort of stronger than finasteride when it comes to net anti andorgenic effect.
I agree. This seems like a good strategy but works similar to the typical meat and potatoes stack. You increased thickness of your hair but it's not as if you regrew a hairline or anything. Also the first pick looks like you had the flash on and the last two pics are quite dark on your hair part. But this could definitely work for people susceptible to finasteride sides or people to young for 5ar inhabition.

You mentioned being removed from his Facebook group, I'm curious to know why?
 
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I agree. This seems like a good strategy but works similar to the typical meat and potatoes stack. You increased thickness of your hair but it's not as if you regrew a hairline or anything. Also the first pick looks like you had the flash on and the last two pics are quite dark on your hair part. But this could definitely work for people susceptible to finasteride sides or people to young for 5ar inhabition.

You mentioned being removed from his Facebook group, I'm curious to know why?

When I mentioned he removed me off Facebook I was not referring to Taeian but the client of Taeian(ill link his photo again). I sent him a facebook friend request and he accepted. After 2 weeks he removed me....I should have strike a conversation with him but I forgot to ask him the details of his regiment.

When it comes to Taeian I speak to him on a daily basis and met with him IRL too.


Also, when it comes to hairline I am not joking here but I regrew a lot of what I lost around the temple area. I just didn't focus on that or take pictures of it. I sent a few picture examples to TurboFixer and he has seen how I regrew a lot of my temple region from this protocal.

It was filling out but when I applied the microneedling that's where changes were accelerated.
 

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Do you think taking oral castor oil as effective as applying on the scalp?

Btw, where do you get your ketoconazole cream? Ive been using the shampoo version and it dries out my hair too much.
 

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Do you think taking oral castor oil as effective as applying on the scalp?

Btw, where do you get your ketoconazole cream? Ive been using the shampoo version and it dries out my hair too much.

I can't really comment on oral versions since I don't have experience.


I got it at the pharmacy via prescription from my doctor. You have to say you have fungal infection on body. they wont prescribe if you say your scalp has dandruff or something because they will just give you that garbage nizoral shampoo.

If you fail to get it via the doctor then you can get it here: https://nizoralshop.com/en/home/25-...fungal-jock-itch-ring-worm-athletes-foot.html

I had to use another search engine to find this website. I oredered 1 piece and it works so you have my recommendation for this link. I really recommend trying to get it at the doctors because they supply you with 30mg instead of 20mg
 
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I can't really comment on oral versions since I don't have experience.


I got it at the pharmacy via prescription from my doctor. You have to say you have fungal infection on body. they wont prescribe if you say your scalp has dandruff or something because they will just give you that garbage nizoral shampoo.

If you fail to get it via the doctor then you can get it here: https://nizoralshop.com/en/home/25-...fungal-jock-itch-ring-worm-athletes-foot.html

I had to use another search engine to find this website. I oredered 1 piece and it works so you have my recommendation for this link. I really recommend trying to get it at the doctors because they supply you with 30mg instead of 20mg

I'll try and see if I can even find a doctor that prescribes it in my country. Most of them just give the shampoo version. You just apply at the balding/itchy region of the scalp overnight right?
 

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I'll try and see if I can even find a doctor that prescribes it in my country. Most of them just give the shampoo version. You just apply at the balding/itchy region of the scalp overnight right?


yes but please remember to follow the diet and regiment otherwise you won't yield the results you look for.
 
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One last thing, what brands are you using for essential oils like rosemary, peppermint and emu? Thinking of combining them into my topical.
Yea, ill be changing my diet little by little since rice has always been part of my routine.
 
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Peppermint oil: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01EJHYA4Q/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

emu oil: https://ca.iherb.com/pr/InstaNatural-Emu-Oil-Body-Treatment-4-fl-oz-120-ml/75393

Rosemary oil: https://ca.iherb.com/pr/Cococare-100-Rosemary-Oil-1-fl-oz-30-ml/63444

Bi-estro cream https://ca.iherb.com/pr/Life-flo-Bi-Estro-Care-Body-Cream-4-oz-113-4-g/23751



microneedling pen i got(m8 version) pick any kind you want. Mine was most expensive but this is optional. if price inconvinence u can stick with regular derma roller but less effective. Make sure to work it at 1.5mm and up. It's very painful so if u cant start at 1mm and then progress more each week


Follow the guide here: https://www.taeian.com/taeians-hair-loss-protocol/



rice is fine...just avoid all dairy and fake food like pasta that absorb minerals from the food u eat.

Make sure to use cronometer to track ur daily nutrients
 
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Guys treaments other than 5-ar inhibitors, minoxidil will amount nearly nothing. Even dermarolling is debateble. The natural oils and ketoconozale cream will be nothing but hassle. And you can always have a transplant if you are not happy with the results of big 3 ,believe they will slow you hairloss down at the worst worst case.
 
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