A Study Regarding The Importance Of Personality

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Well we're back to square one, it's even easier to assume that from a quick glance at a couple holding hands, that she's desperately looking rid of him and wants a Chad instead. Even at the risk of a one night stand.

To me that's even more of a jump in logic, wanting to believe from an image, what you want to take from it.

This is what red pill or MGTOW sh*t is for me, and why I've never truly engaged with the vast majority of ideas involved, it's all about trying to crush any hope of happiness for people because of the emptiness of the opines life.

And normally this is all based on absolutely nothing, the anecdotal evidence that in some cases women will cheat, and end up divorcing their man for his money, his house, his kids, and while that's a hard pill to swallow that it could happen to anyone, red pill applies this logic to absolutely everything.

It's like this rule of 80% of women only wanting 20% of men, I've never looked into it but I know of the Pareto principle, I would guess this is probably where the idea was based on, and to me that tells me the idea is total bullshit. Applying a principle to relationships because it's scientifically "sound".

Yet that same idea is something we see all the time, red pillers think this is actually science, @Patrick_Bateman referenced it in the OP, but nobody knows where it came from or what it means.
You're right in that there's too many variables at play, there's no cookie cutter of a man or woman. Human relationships are too complex to say "oh this is how all women or men are". A lot of these ideas come from heavily opinionated views based on life events, or at least so for me. I'm not coming at you from an angry kissless virgin point of view here.

Guess I'm just trying to get a better understanding along the way, I don't fully prescribe to the bitterness of red pill or MGTOW thinking, some great points are made but ultimately it's the equivalent of 3rd wave feminism, the whole victimization game.
 

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news flash...

inb4 link to male model tinder experiment
 

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It's like this rule of 80% of women only wanting 20% of men, I've never looked into it but I know of the Pareto principle, I would guess this is probably where the idea was based on, and to me that tells me the idea is total bullshit.

There was a study on some dating website: the women rated the majority of men as below average. I'm sure that study has been posted here before....
 

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You're right in that there's too many variables at play, there's no cookie cutter of a man or woman. Human relationships are too complex to say "oh this is how all women or men are". A lot of these ideas come from heavily opinionated views based on life events, or at least so for me. I'm not coming at you from an angry kissless virgin point of view here.

Guess I'm just trying to get a better understanding along the way, I don't fully prescribe to the bitterness of red pill or MGTOW thinking, some great points are made but ultimately it's the equivalent of 3rd wave feminism, the whole victimization game.

Thanks. These discussions rarely end like this.

There's no denying that men of any aesthetic status will f*** way below their level, look at @JohnsonDDG (sorry lol).

So inevitably women who know they can get a one-off f*** from guys above their level, may do so. They have the comfort net back at home, but if cracks appear, she has that choice, even a middle aged average looking woman with a decent body can probably pull up to a 8/10 young guy for one-off sex, and it happens! The fact that it happens sometimes means that because it's crushing, the red pill tells you it constantly happens, to everyone, everywhere.

Reality is different, as you say it's hard to tell what happens behind public displays of affection and the "white picket fence", your guess is as good as mine.

But one thing is for sure, I'm not taking anecdotal evidence as certainties.
 

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There was a study on some dating website:

Oh automatically disqualified.

Thanks though. I think I have seen it before, even some red pillers know that the "online dating" studies are flimsy evidence. That's like another reality.
 

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Thanks. These discussions rarely end like this.

There's no denying that men of any aesthetic status will f*** way below their level, look at @JohnsonDDG (sorry lol).

So inevitably women who know they can get a one-off f*** from guys above their level, may do so. They have the comfort net back at home, but if cracks appear, she has that choice, even a middle aged average looking woman with a decent body can probably pull up to a 8/10 young guy for one-off sex, and it happens! The fact that it happens sometimes means that because it's crushing, the red pill tells you it constantly happens, to everyone, everywhere.

Reality is different, as you say it's hard to tell what happens behind public displays of affection and the "white picket fence", your guess is as good as mine.

But one thing is for sure, I'm not taking anecdotal evidence as certainties.
Certainly. I like to keep an open mind, I'm not going to sit here and argue about something that's so damn open ended, no definites just mere commonalities such as looks DO matter, socials skills, status etc. In what makes a women swoon in of those combinations is simply independent. Reality isn't a message board that's for sure. I'm glad I developed social skills with the opposite sex early on otherwise hairloss for me would be 100x worse haha.
 

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news flash...

inb4 link to male model tinder experiment

Uh wait stop the presses, available single women want to f*** an incredibly hot guy?

Like if I was to be on Tinder, and Miranda Kerr is DTF, I'm going to say no?

Then cherry pick the people who say yes to anything, no matter how obnoxious Chad or Miranda Kerr appear, in the vast internet of unlimited possibilities.
 

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what if she has a bad personality((((

Then you f*** her and depending on how much you can tolerate her personality, move on or keep f*****g her until her personality is intolerable.

If you are single and on tinder then that is what you do, same as females.

What was your point?
 

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True, never underestimate the utmost importance of having a good personality. :D

I re-watched Seven (1995) yesterday (great, great movie), and hearing Gwyneth Paltrow saying she wanted to marry Brad Pitt because he was the "funniest guy" she had ever met was absolutely hilarious.

"Chad has good looks so isn't allowed to be funny" cope.
 

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More like "girls associate to good-looks qualities the guy doesn't even have" cope.

"My humour is superior and unappreciated because I don't look like Brad" cope.

That's really the underlying issue. So what if a woman finds a man funny? It doesn't affect you.

Qualities he doesn't have? Knowledge based on what?

He has looks so genetically his humour genome must be irradicated.
 

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Lol some of you guys have never dated women with shitty personality traits!

Ask Buckthorn
 

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I met lots of people

Lol who are you kidding.

Even if true you apparently get treated like sh*t all the time, why would they act funny and smart with you? They wouldn't want you to see that side of them they'd just want the f*** away. I do the same thing, except not with ugly people but with people that are try-hards and unlikeable. I don't want to impress them, just like these Italian Chad's don't want to impress you because of ugliness (this is based off what you tell us, not what I'm telling you).

Source is flawed.

Of course looks can increase semi decent qualities, if a beautiful woman shows any sense of humour or intelligence it is multiplied in impressiveness.

However most people are neither that overtly funny or that strongly intelligent, so picking up on the fact a good looking person may not be that funny is like picking on it with any person.

Anyway you applied your golden rule to a guy you know nothing about because of your biased past "experiences", you go from curmudgeon to social fly on the wall depending on the debate.

He's attractive so she couldn't have found him funny, well she could be dim herself, who the f*** cares.

Confirmation bias crap based on bullshit artists past bullshit experiences.

Edit: oh and uhm, cope.
 

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I meet them at my workplace. They don't often talk to me specifically (except for casual conversation before asking me something of course, but also to my colleagues, I'm forced to be there so I just watch and listen, since being invisible to their eyes has its advantages.

You're even more of a prick than usual this morning. Someone pissed on your mashed potatoes?

f*** you judge people you don't even talk to.

And of course you are a presence to them if they are aware you're within listening distance.

What the f*** kind of clever finish-post quip was "someone pissed on your mashed potatoes"? I don't know if you should be judging your workmates sense of humour, Brad Pitt's, anyone.

Fine, you have some very tedious real life experience, of listening in on other people you apparently don't care about. That means all good looking people are stupid and unfunny. From the king of pissy mashed potato quips himself.

Keep hating the fact beautiful people find decent qualities in each other and maybe exaggerate them which should be irrelevant to you, and just keep pissing in your own mashed potatoes.
 

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Lol who are you kidding.

Even if true you apparently get treated like sh*t all the time, why would they act funny and smart with you? They wouldn't want you to see that side of them they'd just want the f*** away. I do the same thing, except not with ugly people but with people that are try-hards and unlikeable. I don't want to impress them, just like these Italian Chad's don't want to impress you because of ugliness (this is based off what you tell us, not what I'm telling you).

Source is flawed.

Of course looks can increase semi decent qualities, if a beautiful woman shows any sense of humour or intelligence it is multiplied in impressiveness.

However most people are neither that overtly funny or that strongly intelligent, so picking up on the fact a good looking person may not be that funny is like picking on it with any person.

Anyway you applied your golden rule to a guy you know nothing about because of your biased past "experiences", you go from curmudgeon to social fly on the wall depending on the debate.

He's attractive so she couldn't have found him funny, well she could be dim herself, who the f*** cares.

Confirmation bias crap based on bullshit artists past bullshit experiences.

Edit: oh and uhm, cope.
the fact that she described pitt as just "funny" makes this one more likely tho. it would be a different story if she had given specific examples or other traits as well

also its quite possible halo effect could work unconsciously.
 

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the fact that she described pitt as just "funny" makes this one more likely tho. it would be a different story if she had given specific examples or other traits as well

also its quite possible halo effect could work unconsciously.

Look I don't really care if he's literally funny or not, the point is assumption based on looks.

Oh the irony.
 

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Look I don't really care if he's literally funny or not, the point is assumption based on looks.

Oh the irony.
thats true. its hard to let go of the habit though

nowadays i only do the life threatening stuff. for example if i see a ghetto looking or black person coming towards me i move as far away as possible. just LEL at being politically correct when your life is on the line.
 

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thats true. its hard to let go of the habit though

nowadays i only do the life threatening stuff. for example if i see a ghetto looking or black person coming towards me i move as far away as possible. just LEL at being politically correct when your life is on the line.

Chris Rock on the media creating an image of black criminality:

"When I'm at the ATM taking out money on a dark night, I'm not looking over my shoulder for the media"
 

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ofc this is prone to confirmation bias, but it does seem like people act like you would expect them to act. ofc there are exceptions (i wouldn't have guessed bald hurts is insecure based on his looks lmao) but there does seem to be trends

it would make sense for the way you act to be affected by how other people expect you to act. peoples opinions of you weigh on everyones mind. even alone people know how others view them. heres one example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotype_threat. blacks scored lower on tests when the test was described as an intelligence test. girls did badly in chess when playing against guys. the effect disappears when the task is not defined as a measure of ability or in a way that entertains stereotypes. such as tests given as "diagnostic" to both blacks and whites showed very similar scores

f*** i deal with this everyday lol. i know i'm scrawny and have glasses so people probably assume i'm weak and unconfident. it's hard to get past
 

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ofc this is prone to confirmation bias, but it does seem like people act like you would expect them to act. ofc there are exceptions (i wouldn't have guessed bald hurts is insecure based on his looks lmao) but there does seem to be trends

it would make sense for the way you act to be affected by how other people expect you to act. peoples opinions of you weigh on everyones mind. even alone people know how others view them. heres one example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotype_threat. blacks scored lower on tests when the test was described as an intelligence test. girls did badly in chess when playing against guys. the effect disappears when the task is not defined as a measure of ability or in a way that entertains stereotypes. such as tests given as "diagnostic" to both blacks and whites showed very similar scores

f*** i deal with this everyday lol. i know i'm scrawny and have glasses so people probably assume i'm weak and unconfident. it's hard to get past
Lmao incel morning thoughts.

Meanwhile chad pushes his prime girl that he met yesterday in a club and doesnt even know her name aside from the bed, doesn't even bother to fix his hair etc cause he always looks good, then makes a coffee then proceeds to bang the prime girl again
 
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