Abstinence is the major weapon in defeating hair loss!!!!

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drgs

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I have a challange to the sceptics:

I don't want you to become nofap. I want you to go abstinent for one week.
On day 8 I want you to masturbate and indulge in p**rn as much as you can. Try to set your personal best. And when you're done, you gather your strength and rub out one more anyway.

On the day after and the days leading up to this day, ie. 6-7-8-9, I want you to observe your shedding.
If you do have increased shedding on day 9, and if you're a honest person, send me a small postcard with the only words "drgs, you were right".
Or just report in this thread.
 

californiaoceans911

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The reason I started saying "nom nom moron" was because I'm sick of this nonsense. It's impossible to instill knowledge on someone is in mentally not capable of understanding something.

I mean just look at the utter horse**** you're peddling here. 8 subjects does not satisfy the criteria for establishing a general rule of thumb or law.

Ejaculation may raise hormone levels but it is a transient effect.

Claiming that you notice thinning when you ejaculate is just plain dumb. Thinking that you will see results of halting hair loss after nofap for a week is just plain dumb.

IF THIS WERE THE CASE then FINASTERIDE would show results in a week, not several months. Don't be dumb. I'm over this thread.
 

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Even worse. There are a million reasons why you could have been shedding. You're looking for something, thus you are convincing yourself that you are finding it. A transient spike in hormone levels is not going to make you shed noticeably. If that was the case, nobody would shed a single hair the day they took a single pill of finasteride. Stop. Just stop.
 

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Even worse. There are a million reasons why you could have been shedding. You're looking for something, thus you are convincing yourself that you are finding it. A transient spike in hormone levels is not going to make you shed noticeably. If that was the case, nobody would shed a single hair the day they took a single pill of finasteride. Stop. Just stop.

Chronic masturbator in denial- you know it makes sense.
 

drgs

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Even worse. There are a million reasons why you could have been shedding. You're looking for something, thus you are convincing yourself that you are finding it. A transient spike in hormone levels is not going to make you shed noticeably. If that was the case, nobody would shed a single hair the day they took a single pill of finasteride. Stop. Just stop.

Every week for a course of 1+ year I was following that routine. Every time, the following day I was shedding aliens from my head.
That's how long it took me to see the pattern. Something I convinced myself? I denied it for 1 year
 

californiaoceans911

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Chronic masturbator in denial- you know it makes sense.


Correction. Sexaholic with full head of hair. Your claims make no sense whatsoever. I pretty much nailed it right on the head with the finasteride comment. Note how people support my views, yet nobody supports yours, oh yea except forever everyone else with horrid reputation on here.
 

drgs

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Chronic masturbator in denial- you know it makes sense.

Aren't we all
I know I used to be

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Correction. Sexaholic with full head of hair. Your claims make no sense whatsoever. I pretty much nailed it right on the head with the finasteride comment. Note how people support my views, yet nobody supports yours, oh yea except forever everyone else with horrid reputation on here.

Let me guess, 90% of your positive reputation ratings are from one single user
 

maher

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Correction. Sexaholic with full head of hair. Your claims make no sense whatsoever. I pretty much nailed it right on the head with the finasteride comment. Note how people support my views, yet nobody supports yours, oh yea except forever everyone else with horrid reputation on here.

Like a give a **** about my rep. All those, 7 green stripes, trolls being banned says it all about rep. system on this board. Why don't you go circe-jerk with Fred and rest of your buddies.

PS: sexaholic- listed under mental illness http://www.self-help.org.uk/directory/mental-illness/?entryid54=30455&p=12
 

zzzzz

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Hey everyone, first post here, I wanted to chime in and give my take.
My hair has been thinning for about 2 years now (im 21) with diffuse thinning in the front and receding hairline and I have been using the "big 3" for about a year now or so. Like most young males in developed nations I watch p**rn and masturbate about once every 2-3 days. I think, from my experience, that ejaculation does have an effect on hairloss. Every time I ejaculate there is an obvious "boost" to the thinning process for me, and I can FEEL the scalp starting to itch far more, with sometimes even a slight pain in the hair follicles.
Basically I think that young men that are already very sensitive to DHT and 5ar will have a small to mild of an increase if they ejaculate constantly. Now it's obvious for me it's not a prime factor, ie taking propecia is far more helpful, but maybe just like smoking cigs has been said to increase the shedding, I think ejaculating, whether by masturbation or sexual intercourse, probably does somehow increases the DHT in the body and the scalp (?) which for men that are balding "prematurely" ie before 30-35 is bad news since their body is so sensitive to the inflammation process and maybe they sometimes have bigger amounts of dht to begin with (?) since they are balding so early. I have been trying to abstain from ejaculation for a 2 weeks now and like previous periods I can swear there is a bit less shedding and far less itching, maybe even slight regrowth in the temples. Now obviously without taking propecia or using minoxidil this will not be a deciding factor which is why I think men that rarely ejaculate still go bald. This is all just speculation from my own experience, but I don't really have a lot to lose to not keep trying to avoid it, and abstaining also gives some much needed self control over your body, so i'm gonna keep trying. I'm obviously not an expert in bio-chemistry and the effects of hormones on the body, but it's just my two cents. It's definitely hard to completely abstain from ejaculation for long periods so even if ejaculation will be found to have an effect on hair-loss i'm not sure how many men will go monk style instead of just shaving their head. :)

no, you are a moron. Your shedding doesn't increase every third day (LOL) because you ejaculated. When a hair sheds that shedding was triggered weeks before. IE when you jacked off 3 hours ago that isn't the reason your imagining that your shedding has increased within the day

this thread continues to produce some of the dumbest things ever said on these forums
 

maher

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Hey everyone, first post here, I wanted to chime in and give my take.
My hair has been thinning for about 2 years now (im 21) with diffuse thinning in the front and receding hairline and I have been using the "big 3" for about a year now or so. Like most young males in developed nations I watch p**rn and masturbate about once every 2-3 days. I think, from my experience, that ejaculation does have an effect on hairloss. Every time I ejaculate there is an obvious "boost" to the thinning process for me, and I can FEEL the scalp starting to itch far more, with sometimes even a slight pain in the hair follicles.
Basically I think that young men that are already very sensitive to DHT and 5ar will have a small to mild of an increase if they ejaculate constantly. Now it's obvious for me it's not a prime factor, ie taking propecia is far more helpful, but maybe just like smoking cigs has been said to increase the shedding, I think ejaculating, whether by masturbation or sexual intercourse, probably does somehow increases the DHT in the body and the scalp (?) which for men that are balding "prematurely" ie before 30-35 is bad news since their body is so sensitive to the inflammation process and maybe they sometimes have bigger amounts of dht to begin with (?) since they are balding so early. I have been trying to abstain from ejaculation for a 2 weeks now and like previous periods I can swear there is a bit less shedding and far less itching, maybe even slight regrowth in the temples. Now obviously without taking propecia or using minoxidil this will not be a deciding factor which is why I think men that rarely ejaculate still go bald. This is all just speculation from my own experience, but I don't really have a lot to lose to not keep trying to avoid it, and abstaining also gives some much needed self control over your body, so i'm gonna keep trying. I'm obviously not an expert in bio-chemistry and the effects of hormones on the body, but it's just my two cents. It's definitely hard to completely abstain from ejaculation for long periods so even if ejaculation will be found to have an effect on hair-loss i'm not sure how many men will go monk style instead of just shaving their head. :)

Dude, tnx for sharing. You're welcome to report back with any other observations. Good luck.
 

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no, you are a moron. Your shedding doesn't increase every third day (LOL) because you ejaculated. When a hair sheds that shedding was triggered weeks before. IE when you jacked off 3 hours ago that isn't the reason your imagining that your shedding has increased within the day

this thread continues to produce some of the dumbest things ever said on these forums

Everyone who tried topical certizine one year ago knows how fast shedding can set on -- 24 hours
 

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no, you are a moron. Your shedding doesn't increase every third day (LOL) because you ejaculated. When a hair sheds that shedding was triggered weeks before. IE when you jacked off 3 hours ago that isn't the reason your imagining that your shedding has increased within the day

this thread continues to produce some of the dumbest things ever said on these forums

That's not what I said, you have a bad reading comprehension. All I was saying that for me, personally, every time I ejaculate, which is about every 2-3 days, I notice far more itching and irritation on the scalp, and sometimes a bit more shedding, a few hours to a day or two after the ejaculation. I'm not stating it as a universal fact and proof, I was just trying to share my story and take on this matter, and obviously it could be something else, like maybe a finasteride or minoxidil side effect, but either way - no matter WHY it happens, I am pretty sure it has an adverse effect on my sensitive skin at the scalp and is counter productive to the reason i'm taking finasteride, minor as it is.
Obviously you had to insult me for sharing a personal story since there is just no way an individual knows what's going on with his body, so thanks, I hope that most people here aren't as rude as you though.
:hmmm:
 

californiaoceans911

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Like a give a **** about my rep. All those, 7 green stripes, trolls being banned says it all about rep. system on this board. Why don't you go circe-jerk with Fred and rest of your buddies.

PS: sexaholic- listed under mental illness http://www.self-help.org.uk/directory/mental-illness/?entryid54=30455&p=12


I was using the term loosely dumb dumb. Meaning I'm not a chronic masturbater, I have sex with my girlfriend every day. You're an idiot.

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Let me guess, 90% of your positive reputation ratings are from one single user


LOL you can't continually give positive rep to the same person dumb dumb. I agree with ZZZZ, this thread has produced some of the most ignorant, dumb things ever said in these forums.
 

maher

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I was using the term loosely dumb dumb. Meaning I'm not a chronic masturbater, I have sex with my girlfriend every day. You're an idiot.
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Photos\video, please! You know-.everything is worthless without these, on HairLossTalk.com.

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What's with the insults? Compensating for Iq?
 

zzzzz

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That's not what I said, you have a bad reading comprehension. All I was saying that for me, personally, every time I ejaculate, which is about every 2-3 days, I notice far more itching and irritation on the scalp, and sometimes a bit more shedding, a few hours to a day or two after the ejaculation. I'm not stating it as a universal fact and proof, I was just trying to share my story and take on this matter, and obviously it could be something else, like maybe a finasteride or minoxidil side effect, but either way - no matter WHY it happens, I am pretty sure it has an adverse effect on my sensitive skin at the scalp and is counter productive to the reason i'm taking finasteride, minor as it is.
Obviously you had to insult me for sharing a personal story since there is just no way an individual knows what's going on with his body, so thanks, I hope that most people here aren't as rude as you though.
:hmmm:

whats rude is giving people false info and thinking that they can help their hair by not masturbating. No, I did read your post correctly, and shedding wont onset that fast from jacking off once you are a moron. Go **** yourself and don't post anecdotal imagined garbage here any more
 
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PLEASE ! for the love of god ! don't call us liars , there IS decreased shedding when you don't masturbate , just do what drgs proposed and you'll see for yourselves .

just because there is no proof of Jesus existence , doesn't mean he doesn't exist....

frankly ..... how would we benefit from lying to you ? that's your hair and your c*** after all...
 

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whats rude is giving people false info and thinking that they can help their hair by not masturbating. No, I did read your post correctly, and shedding wont onset that fast from jacking off once you are a moron. Go **** yourself and don't post anecdotal imagined garbage here any more

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PLEASE ! for the love of god ! don't call us liars , there IS decreased shedding when you don't masturbate , just do what drgs proposed and you'll see for yourselves .

just because there is no proof of Jesus existence , doesn't mean he doesn't exist....

frankly ..... how would we benefit from lying to you ? that's your hair and your c*** after all...


This is a myth, it just isn't true. No scientific evidence to back up your claim that masturbation causes hair loss. You cannot see shedding from masturbating once. If this was the case, people who have a genetic predisposition to balding would do so at a much MUCH earlier age.

Let's assume there is a tiny tiny chance that nofap may help hair loss. It is very apparent that it does so at an inconsequential rate. Walking around the block once a day will help you get into marathon shape, but no not really. You have to run hundreds of miles a month to train for a marathon.

NOFAP = walk around the block once, Finasteride/minoxidil/Ketoconazole = running hundreds of miles

Meanwhile, you're sitting there torturing yourself by not ejaculating like a normal healthy male.

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just because there is no proof of Jesus existence , doesn't mean he doesn't exist....


This explains a lot...lol :doh:
 
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