Abstinence is the major weapon in defeating hair loss!!!!

[zzzzz]

so all the priests and popes and governments that are wasting money at making budgets to build churches are as desperate as us nofappers aren't they?

I know this forum isn't about religion , but I can't make my point other than so.

yes they are, they are spreading false hope when there is none (through that means)

 

[californiaoceans911]

so all the priests and popes and governments that are wasting money at making budgets to build churches are as desperate as us nofappers aren't they?

I know this forum isn't about religion , but I can't make my point other than so.

yes they are, they are spreading false hope when there is none (through that means)

I don't know if desperate is the word I would use, more like deluded. There's also something to be said for the fact that the church "industry" employs a lot of people and does a lot of good in feeding the homeless, helping those in need, and providing guidance.

My comment wasn't about the church. It was about your statement:

just because there is no proof of Jesus existence , doesn't mean he doesn't exist....

That's actually exactly what it means. To exist, there must be proof of your existence. I think it is widely accepted that Jesus Christ did, in fact, walk the earth....but do not attribute any divinity to him.

This is a point I've made over and over again. To take a path of action based on scientific proof is logical and intelligent. To base one's behavior on things that are stipulated/hypothesized or shown to help via anecdote is just plain illogical.

You're doing something very radical in the hopes that it might help, based on zero proof. Yes, I said it, there is no proof that nofap halts hair loss or helps halt hair loss. This to me is the definition of dumb. I'm sorry if that offends you.

 

[Travalanche]

I don't think there i much of a correlation between masturbation and hair loss but excessive masturbation certainly can cause ill-effects on your body.

Recently though... I've not masturbated in 5 days as of now because I'm just so depressed and when I get depressed I am not horny at all.

I've went two+ weeks without masturbating before and eventually you just start having wet dreams so I think that as long as you don't jerk off more than like once every other day you'll be fine.

I've also had periods in my life where I would wank it like 3 times per day for like a week straight and I felt sort of weak due to it and my junk was sore.

 

[xRedStaRx]

Frequent masturbation depletes your body's zinc levels. We all know how important zinc is for hair condition.

But no, fapping will not make you bald, unless it grows hair on your palms as well.

 

[Notcoolanymore]

How sad is it that at a place like Hairlosstalk.com, some of the most popular threads are ones discussing NOFAP and abstinence as possible cures for hair loss? This is suppose to be a place where guys(and some women) can come and find facts about their hair loss. A place where guys can educate themselves on treatments that may stop or slow down their hair loss. Instead we are discussing this garbage, that I am sure is harming countless men. A new section should be added to this forum : Guaranteed Treatments to Help You Go Slick. This thread would be perfect for that section.

 

[drgs]

How sad is it that at a place like Hairlosstalk.com, some of the most popular threads are ones discussing NOFAP and abstinence as possible cures for hair loss? This is suppose to be a place where guys(and some women) can come and find facts about their hair loss. A place where guys can educate themselves on treatments that may stop or slow down their hair loss. Instead we are discussing this garbage, that I am sure is harming countless men. A new section should be added to this forum : Guaranteed Treatments to Help You Go Slick. This thread would be perfect for that section.

"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all"
N. Chomsky

This is a discussion forum, not a reference site
You 1) listen to the advices and 2) take your own decisions

If you can only do the first step, Notcoolanymore -- you are a clinical idiot, who should not have access to the internet

I owe you nothing, so get f_cked *puts on ignore*

 

[californiaoceans911]

"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all"
N. Chomsky

This is a discussion forum, not a reference site
You 1) listen to the advices and 2) take your own decisions

If you can only do the first step, Notcoolanymore -- you are a clinical idiot, who should not have access to the internet

I owe you nothing, so get f_cked *puts on ignore*

Look at the tool who quotes Chomsky and then says that someone should not have access to the internet not a moment later. Thanks Adolf.

PS. It's hard to respect someone who types illiterate statements like "You 1) listen to the advices and 2) take your own decisions"

PPS. I would hardly call NOFAP as a means for stopping hair loss advice. It's like saying "Start doing NOFAP, or else you'll go blind".

 

[Notcoolanymore]

"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all"
N. Chomsky

This is a discussion forum, not a reference site
You 1) listen to the advices and 2) take your own decisions

If you can only do the first step, Notcoolanymore -- you are a clinical idiot, who should not have access to the internet

I owe you nothing, so get f_cked *puts on ignore*

1. There is no freedom of expression on this message forum. If there was there would be no need for mods banning trolls. As they are only expressing their opinion.

2. You try to come off as educated, then support moronic stuff like this Abstinence and NOFAP garbage.

3. You have the nerve to call me an idiot. LMAO.

4. Yes I want to make it very clear. You owe me absolutely nothing. I have seen what you have to offer and I will pass.

5. As far as your profane statement. Weak attempt to sound tough. Just very weak...like abstinence and NOFAP's affect on hair loss.

 

[maher]

1. There is no freedom of expression on this message forum. If there was there would be no need for mods banning trolls. As they are only expressing their opinion.

2. You try to come off as educated, then support moronic stuff like this Abstinence and NOFAP garbage.

3. You have the nerve to call me an idiot. LMAO.

4. Yes I want to make it very clear. You owe me absolutely nothing. I have seen what you have to offer and I will pass.

5. As far as your profane statement. Weak attempt to sound tough. Just very weak...like abstinence and NOFAP's affect on hair loss.

The only thing weak here is your mind!

 

[californiaoceans911]

1. There is no freedom of expression on this message forum. If there was there would be no need for mods banning trolls. As they are only expressing their opinion.

2. You try to come off as educated, then support moronic stuff like this Abstinence and NOFAP garbage.

3. You have the nerve to call me an idiot. LMAO.

4. Yes I want to make it very clear. You owe me absolutely nothing. I have seen what you have to offer and I will pass.

5. As far as your profane statement. Weak attempt to sound tough. Just very weak...like abstinence and NOFAP's affect on hair loss.

:agree: AMEN brother. As a side note Maher finally hit a bright RED! Congrats bro! lol

 

[Notcoolanymore]

:agree: AMEN brother. As a side note Maher finally hit a bright RED! Congrats bro! lol

LOL.

BTW good signature. That would actually be a worthwhile thread topic.

 

[dreamermerlin]

How sad is it that at a place like Hairlosstalk.com, some of the most popular threads are ones discussing NOFAP and abstinence as possible cures for hair loss?

Nobody said that abstinence from masturbation is a possible "cure".
It MAY only be a connection, from a reason plain and simple: hairloss is strongly connected with DHT, and sex/mastrubation CAN mess with DHT.
I said "can", we do not have a clear proof if it does or it doesn't.

Anyway, what i regard as "sad" is the army of defenders of "fap". Who throw loads of insults when someone questions this pathetic activity called "fap".
Oh, and my preferred idea, by far, is how you "waste your time" by not doing fap and doing something useful instead. That is not moronic at all, yeah of course...

 

[mr the hairy monkey]

yesterday night was a real struggle... I had to wake up every 20 minutes because I was feeling some sort of c*** erecting dreams going on , and would have found it dramatic enough to let the sauce out after all the time that I've been breeding it , but thankfully the pipes are OK , no leakage.

It MAY only be a connection, from a reason plain and simple: hairloss is strongly connected with DHT, and sex/mastrubation CAN mess with DHT.
I said "can", we do not have a clear proof if it does or it doesn't.

yeah that's what I've been bothering to explain , but they just don't buy it , I've also pointed out that finasteride sex-drive effects could be other than a coincidence.

but it's like ordering to some thinning hair affected by DHT to move their asses and grow thicker , they just won't listen to what they believe to be raving...


about total abstinence being a "cure" : it can be a mental cure and have positive effects on our beards as I noticed it by myself along with drgs from what I remember .

now I don't want to turn this thread into some kind of yogis and other buddhist's meeting room, but in five words : your semen is your power.

if you want to call me crazy then call me crazy , but in 5 months , put genius at the end of crazy.

 

[maher]

How sad is it that at a place like Hairlosstalk.com, some of the most popular threads are ones discussing NOFAP and abstinence as possible cures for hair loss? This is suppose to be a place where guys(and some women) can come and find facts about their hair loss. A place where guys can educate themselves on treatments that may stop or slow down their hair loss. Instead we are discussing this garbage, that I am sure is harming countless men. A new section should be added to this forum : Guaranteed Treatments to Help You Go Slick. This thread would be perfect for that section.

Again with patronizing. It's disgusting! Harming? nofap/abs reduce risk of prostate cancer.

http://www.webmd.com/prostate-cancer...Telogen Effluvium-cancer-risk

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19016689

And you worried about other guys going slick?what a joke. People are not stupid-they can read the literature, search the forum, filter-out nonsense and act. You and other are just making it more difficult by spaming and trolling. You never have any valid arguments.. you're one of those 7stripes fascist trolls.

 

[drgs]

Look at the tool who quotes Chomsky and then says that someone should not have access to the internet not a moment later. Thanks Adolf.

A milestone!
Godwin's law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

For your own safety, californiaoceans911
If a person adopts every treatment he finds on the internet, it obviously does not end well

A normal person would simply avoid getting involved in a discussion, if it didn't seem worth it. Think about it, californiaoceans911, weren't you done with this thread 4 pages back?
You're hooked, your hands are shaking from jerking off, face is covered in sores and you keep checking this thread every 5 minutes
If it continues like this, soon enough you will start creating clone accounts.
See how easy it is to get lost in the dark paths of the internet, californiaoceans911?

And btw, keep in mind, I'm writing in my 3rd language

 

[Secretlybatman]

If you don't fap your testostrone rises which means more DHT than just a couple of localised fapping.

 

[maher]

If you don't fap your testostrone rises which means more DHT than just a couple of localised fapping.

:doh:

 

[mr the hairy monkey]

If you don't fap your testostrone rises which means more DHT than just a couple of localised fapping.

you are right about testosterone , nofap = more testosterone

testosterone rises when you solicit your muscles or testicles , it reaches a peak and then goes down when you are done with such activities.

but wrong about dht , more testosterone = less DHT being converted from testosterone in order to compensate the lack of it.

 

[zzzzz]

you are right about testosterone , nofap = more testosterone

testosterone rises when you solicit your muscles or testicles , it reaches a peak and then goes down when you are done with such activities.

but wrong about dht , more testosterone = less DHT being converted from testosterone in order to compensate the lack of it.

that is entirely false. When T increases, DHT increases every time. The enzyme doesn't have some feedback mechanism that tells the body that it has X amount of androgens and cause it to compensate for that. It is just an enzyme when their are more of the substrate molecule to convert available than the enzymes will be converting more of said substrate (T) into DHT. Your basic knowledge of biology is extremely poor and almost everything you say is completely wrong. Nofap increases T, and therefore DHT, and therefore hairloss, if anything. negged again. Stop posting here

 

[frenchy]

that is entirely false. When T increases, DHT increases every time. The enzyme doesn't have some feedback mechanism that tells the body that it has X amount of androgens and cause it to compensate for that. It is just an enzyme when their are more of the substrate molecule to convert available than the enzymes will be converting more of said substrate (T) into DHT. Your basic knowledge of biology is extremely poor and almost everything you say is completely wrong. Nofap increases T, and therefore DHT, and therefore hairloss, if anything. negged again. Stop posting here

yep
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20534765