Baldness vs Fat Shaming

xetudor

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That's obviously a ridiculous comparison. Nobody in the world deserves to be shamed for the way they look. Nobody. People who do body shame others deserve a good beating but that last bit is just my opinion.

People deserve to be beaten just for some words they say? I'm also certain your definition for "shaming" is very broad.
 

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That's obviously a ridiculous comparison. Nobody in the world deserves to be shamed for the way they look. Nobody. People who do body shame others deserve a good beating but that last bit is just my opinion.

If it wasn't for the shaming, ridicule and self-hate incurred by being overweight during most of my teen years I would probably still be the fat sh*t that I was.
Instead I now have normal blood pressure, am fit, weigh 50 lbs less and look and feel a hell of a lot better. With a fair dose of that CONFIDENCE thrown in that, you know, tends to come from objective aesthetic improvements.
 

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It's open season for mocking men in general. Try mocking a bald woman, and you'll see.

Are you a man or a pussy? Pussies cry and have feelings. Men don't. And remember, confidence! :rolleyes:

But lol. If you made fun of a bald woman in public you'd never hear the end of it. All the white knights would just swoop down on you like vultures.

Reminds me of this:

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People deserve to be beaten just for some words they say? I'm also certain your definition for "shaming" is very broad.


As I said, my personal opinion.

People commenting here that a fat person deserves to be shamed are just bullying assh*les. Nobody knows what is going on in someone else's life to cause them to appear a certain way. 100% of the time body shaming is wrong.

As for those people who say that overweight people 'deserve it'. 1) who are you to say what someone should look like? Mind your own business. 2) There are absolutely people who struggle with their weight more than others. Could be genetic or a health condition or a mix of both. 3) I personally know and have cared about people who for all their efforts have struggled with their weight and if I witnessed someone 'shaming' them for 'being fat' then it would take a whole lot of restraint for me not to beat the sh*t out of them.
 

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What the f*** is wrong with you.

I never said some some people break laws of physics.

I have seen thousands of people.
I have seen people who don't eat over than limit,still they are fat because of their metabolism and genetics.

I have seen poor people who don't know what the f*** pizza is,they don't know what is McDonald's,
Don't know what is ghee,butter,
Live on soyabean and rice and dal from subsidy (govt),do labour work still have weight problems.

Don't be the foolish victim of western media that weight is fastfood and
Weightloss is gym,diet form weight loss programs.
 

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What the f*** is wrong with you.

I never said some some people break laws of physics.

I have seen thousands of people.
I have seen people who don't eat over than limit,still they are fat because of their metabolism and genetics.

I have seen poor people who don't know what the f*** pizza is,they don't know what is McDonald's,
Don't know what is ghee,butter,
Live on soyabean and rice and dal from subsidy (govt),do labour work still have weight problems.

Don't be the foolish victim of western media that weight is fastfood and
Weightloss is gym,diet form weight loss programs.

You'll lose more weight on ghee than on rice.

Rice is a simple carbohydrate. It raises insulin.

Ghee and butter don't raise insulin.

Butter, if I recall correctly, gives you 2% of the insulin increase that white sugar does.

2%.
 
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This women is an athlete,
She requires high calorie diet to stay fit.
About 2500/2700 calories.
She must be requiring to burn calories still she didn't lose weight.
Because losing weight is not possible to all.
Only few will lose weight.


About weigh loss,
I have a brother cousin who is overweight(slightly).
Is handsome,6 feet but have moderate built.
He did whatever he can do,everything,
He was under Dietician also,
Still he failed to lose weight.

Do you know there are few girls(slim) that will never gain weight no matter how much they eat.
They have faster metabolic rate,that will never make such girls gain weight.
There is one brand Endura body mass in India for girls to gain weight.

Now debunk this myth.

Why slim girls exist on earth.
( look i am not talking about ramp girls).

Tell me the reason.

On Alan Goldhammer's plan, everybody loses weight.
http://www.healthpromoting.com/site...-the-Treatment-of-Borderline-Hypertension.pdf
Everybody. No exceptions. Average is 1 lbs per day of weight loss.
Blood pressure also goes down in every patient. Every patient. No exceptions.

Slim girls exist for a variety of reasons as there are a lot of hormones that contribute to obesity. Within the rich countries, the dominant factor is insulin sensitivity. If your insulin levels are low, and your insulin sensitivity is high, then you will probably be slim.
 
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Weight training
High-intensity interval training
low carb, high fat
intermittent fasting

HIIT is legit. Possibly the best type of fitness for overall longterm health and such if you only have so much time on your hands to work out.

My favorite interval workout: Hill sprints. Find a moderate to steep hill, sprint to the top, walk or jog down, do it again.
 

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So the take away from this thread is that fat shaming is not OK but bald shaming is encouraged. To be fair, I didn't need this thread to tell me that.
 

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Bald shaming was not a big deal in my workplace but fat shaming got me a verbal warning.
 

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So the take away from this thread is that fat shaming is not OK but bald shaming is encouraged. To be fair, I didn't need this thread to tell me that.

Not if you ask me.
 

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Thousands of people that you're not helping -- that's not good.
You'll lose more weight on ghee than on rice.

Rice is a simple carbohydrate. It raises insulin.

Ghee and butter don't raise insulin.

Butter, if I recall correctly, gives you 2% of the insulin increase that white sugar does.

2%.
You are not understanding the problem why obesity exists..
You need to meet people,know their socio economic status,know there food eating habits,
Know how much laborious work they do.

Height of Hypocrisy .

Human can't control a f*****g dead proteins on head if they genetically had that allele...

And say obesity is not genetics.

I will not reply again on this matter.
Come to India. I will let you meet thousands of people.
When i was practising
Atleast 50000 people come to a hoapital.
And take an example of Medicine..
About 1000 opd patients,while wards have about 50 beds with 2/3/4/5 relatives along with each patients.
I have gone through their History sheet were i seen there calorie intake taken by first year students.

Human physique is programmed such a way that no human can change that.

One example..

Many females look so fatty when they are pregnant, while few female can never be identified as pregnant looking at their face pics.


Take my example..
I have a genetics that my face will never gain weight even when i went to 65/70kg weight.
While all many norwood zero friends have started having fatty faces even when they have normal weight to their height.
 

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Ayy lmao.

First of all to everyone who believes in things like some people can't lose weight others can't gain weight bla bla... I am done discussing things with you. Scientists should study these specimens and build a car prototype based on some overweight people, that car would run forever. No need to add fuel. Hypothyroid car engines. You got it. I've heard every excuse in the book. Seen all the fat people coming out of Auschwitz? Didn't think so.

But yeah I talk with David here he seems to have his head on straight.
But I don't practice particular diets you know. I eat a little bit of everything. Like 5 eggs for breakfast, chicken breast for lunch, some potatoes fish vegetables and of course fruit and all that. I don't avoid milk products or sugar, they're just not the mainstay of my diet.
Don't eat fast food or crap like that for the most part though. And I can lose weight pretty much eating anything as long as calories are in check. But when you are in a calorie deficit it's particularly important to have a nutrient-dense diet cause food is scarce so you have to make every bit count. It's really simple. Problem with overweight people (I know because I was one) is too much reward circuits from food, they crave that dopamine high from eating tasty and sugary and salty things. Otherwise calorie requirements are pretty similar but the neurochemistry is off in those people creating an addiction for them. I am not saying it's easy for them to lose weight practically and psychologically, just physically.
 

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You are not understanding the problem why obesity exists..
You need to meet people,know their socio economic status,know there food eating habits,
Know how much laborious work they do.

Height of Hypocrisy .

Human can't control a f*****g dead proteins on head if they genetically had that allele...

And say obesity is not genetics.

I will not reply again on this matter.
Come to India. I will let you meet thousands of people.
When i was practising
Atleast 50000 people come to a hoapital.
And take an example of Medicine..
About 1000 opd patients,while wards have about 50 beds with 2/3/4/5 relatives along with each patients.
I have gone through their History sheet were i seen there calorie intake taken by first year students.

Human physique is programmed such a way that no human can change that.

One example..

Many females look so fatty when they are pregnant, while few female can never be identified as pregnant looking at their face pics.


Take my example..
I have a genetics that my face will never gain weight even when i went to 65/70kg weight.
While all many norwood zero friends have started having fatty faces even when they have normal weight to their height.

In 1960, 15% of Americans were obese.
Today 35% of Americans are obese.

That's not genetics, that's environment. Genetics don't change much in 50 years. The environment, however, has changed a lot. Our culture now encourages a lot of snacking, and a lot of carbohydrates. Sugar, sugar, sugar everywhere.

You're making a lot of excuses to justify not being a winner, and to justify giving out bad advice. That's a sign of being a low-class person. Try and be a winner and give out better advice.

Alan Goldhammer also meets people and discusses their life history with them. He has a 100% success rate at helping people lose weight.
Saurabhaj meets people and talks to them, and has a 0% success rate at helping them lose weight.

The reason your patients don't do well is that you don't offer them a good plan.
 

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Ayy lmao.

First of all to everyone who believes in things like some people can't lose weight others can't gain weight bla bla... I am done discussing things with you. Scientists should study these specimens and build a car prototype based on some overweight people, that car would run forever. No need to add fuel. Hypothyroid car engines. You got it. I've heard every excuse in the book. Seen all the fat people coming out of Auschwitz? Didn't think so.

But yeah I talk with David here he seems to have his head on straight.
But I don't practice particular diets you know. I eat a little bit of everything. Like 5 eggs for breakfast, chicken breast for lunch, some potatoes fish vegetables and of course fruit and all that. I don't avoid milk products or sugar, they're just not the mainstay of my diet.
Don't eat fast food or crap like that for the most part though. And I can lose weight pretty much eating anything as long as calories are in check. But when you are in a calorie deficit it's particularly important to have a nutrient-dense diet cause food is scarce so you have to make every bit count. It's really simple. Problem with overweight people (I know because I was one) is too much reward circuits from food, they crave that dopamine high from eating tasty and sugary and salty things. Otherwise calorie requirements are pretty similar but the neurochemistry is off in those people creating an addiction for them. I am not saying it's easy for them to lose weight practically and psychologically, just physically.

1) It's a genuine tragedy that Saurabhaj is a doctor, at least in this context. He is giving bad advice to thousands of people. He is destroying lives.

He's a doctor and he doesn't know about insulin, cortisol, fats vs carbs vs proteins, the first law of thermodynamics, and their role in obesity. That's not good. He just says "genetics" but he would have no idea of which genes matter where and why and how.

2) I agree with you that the first law of thermodynamics is correct -- obviously. But energy in / energy out are both variable. For example a high sugar diet will increase hunger, increase energy in. If your hunger is increased, then willpower is irrelevant, you will eventually eat. The other factor is that spreading your carbohydrate consumption throughout the day will decrease your metabolism, it will decrease energy out. So, for fixed total calories, you should eat fewer meals.

They did a study recently, people on a high-fat diet had a metabolism increase of FOUR HUNDRED CALORIES A DAY relative to people on the high sugar diet. That's because high sugar => high insulin => cannot metabolize fat.
 
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Yes, ridiculous comparisons are good for pointing out inconsistencies in philosophy. Either you believe that if something isn't affecting you personally that you must mind your own business or you don't. To say a blanket philosophical statement is true one moment and not the next is intellectually dishonest. No one in the world deserves to be praised for something they are not. Anyone who thinks they do deserves a good dose of reality.

By the way, you keep talking about beating people up, but I'm the bully?

I don't know if you're deliberately being obtuse or not...

I'll rephrase for you in a way that people sometimes say it; "if you don't have something nice to say then don't say it at all". This is particularly true where people's appearance is concerned. Saving a kids life in a pool... just a case of being a decent person..like not being a bully.

And yes, anyone who decides to needlessly bodyshame someone else is both an assh*le and a bully. Simple as that. If you're the sort of person who does that or feels the need to make others feel bad based on their appearance then it includes you too. Frankly i have no respect for people like that.
 
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