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I wouldn't start with minoxidil as well. Its a personal thing tbh. When using minoxidil it reminds me of a metaphoric of having a cup of water with a hole at the bottom lol.
Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.
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That's why I think folks should start with two percent even if the box is pink, as a titration starting point less likely to lead to sheds. The better the meds work, the more likelihood of sheds apparently.
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So Russian, then. It's so nice having good personal relationships with Slavic folks nowadays. Slavic tongues are quite hard to learn and master. I used to hang with a Slavic group of friends and they all just spoke in their own languages and everyone pretty much understood, especially the Poles maybe.
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jman98
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Romanian is by far the easiest Eastern European language to learn. Do note that it is also the most difficult of the Latin based languages to learn because of its use of cases. I'd rate it roughly on par with German. I can't speak Romanian at all, but having studied Spanish and Portuguese and to a much lesser extent French, I am somewhat familiar with all of the Latin based languages.
All of the Slavic languages will be quite challenging for you to learn. The easiest, relatively speaking, would be Bulgarian. Except for Bulgarian, all of the Slavic languages have case systems. Russian is probably the "easiest" (again, relatively speaking) to learn because it "only" has 6 cases. Still, the case systems will take you FOREVER to get comfortable with. It took me more than 1 year of constant study before they finally started to sink in and I could remember them well. All of the other Slavic languages (except Bulgarian) seem to me to be somewhat more difficult than Russian to learn. Polish and Czech just seem to be quite complicated and unnecessarily so. Except for Russian and Bulgarian, all of the other Slavic languages I have seen have preserved the absolutely useless vocative case. If you study a Slavic language and learn the cases you will understand in the future why I call that useless. Some of the Slavic languages have VERY weird things in them. Some of the ones spoken around the former Yugoslavia have preserved special cases for dual numbers, again just needlessly adding to the complexity of the language. The more I learn about other Slavic languages, the more I appreciate Russian and its common sense approach to things.
Hungarian is arguably the most difficult language in all of Europe to learn. Finnish would be a close second.
Linguistics experts argue over how many cases Hungarian has. Sources I read said that it has AT LEAST 17!!! Look, Russian is quite difficult and it only has 6. Can you imagine what 17 would be like? Hungarian is not really related to any other languages. There is some very mild, distant similarity to Finnish. I am always greatly amused by the occasional post here by some person who speak Finnish who claims that they can understand "almost everything" they heard in Hungarian. That's kind of like an English speaker listening to Polish and despite having never studied Polish claiming he can understand "almost everything". Right...
Hungarian is also essentially useless outside of Hungary a few very small regions of neighboring countries and even worse, if you do want to study it, good resources are quite hard to find.
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So the Silymarin is for the liver as well as for it's phyto-chemicals? It's good for drunks too. That's a moderately aggressive regimen that many would hope might avoid feminization.
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Yes it is for liver, since i have naturally high bilirubin. I worried that hrt will cause problems for me so i added it to my regimen.
I find it incredibly impressive when one has a full blown beard and no hairloss.
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A Hair Loss Flowchart: Why We Lose Our Hair (Hypothesis)
What causes hair loss? This master flowchart traces the causes of hair loss to its roots. A systematic, scientific approach to explaining hair loss, and why drugs like Finasteride and Minoxidil don't regrow much hair.
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The effects of grounding (earthing) on inflammation, the immune response, wound healing, and prevention and treatment of chronic inflammatory and autoimmune diseases
Multi-disciplinary research has revealed that electrically conductive contact of the human body with the surface of the Earth (grounding or earthing) produces intriguing effects on physiology and health. Such effects relate to inflammation, immune responses, ...
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Ruby
April 24, 2019 at 6:17 am
I know this article and reply chain is a couple old, but. had ton throw in my 2 cents worth. I am a male-to-female transsexual who did not recover my hair loss and barely slowed down the progression. The harsh reality is that *MOST* of us MtFs do not see significant reversal/recovery of hair lost. A few do, and when they do it is so dramatic that their story (which is a minority) is publicized so often and so “loudly” that it takes on a bigger-than-reality impact among a wishful audience. The successful ones all have one thing in common, their hair loss was early in life, and it came on very suddenly and was rapid, and they began full MtF HRT before much time (no more than 3-4 years) of their big hair shedding phase happened. Anybody who waited over 5 years to begin HRT is “effed”, and the most dramatic recoveries are from HRT in less than 3 years from the big hair shedding. Unfortunately for me, I waited too long. I am going to need FUE transplants. When I was young, I had beautiful long, dense hair, and my loss was slow, over 2 decades. I wish I could’ve transitioned long ago, but couldn’t. Losing my hair has made me feel suicidal at time.
April 24, 2019 at 6:17 am
I know this article and reply chain is a couple old, but. had ton throw in my 2 cents worth. I am a male-to-female transsexual who did not recover my hair loss and barely slowed down the progression. The harsh reality is that *MOST* of us MtFs do not see significant reversal/recovery of hair lost. A few do, and when they do it is so dramatic that their story (which is a minority) is publicized so often and so “loudly” that it takes on a bigger-than-reality impact among a wishful audience. The successful ones all have one thing in common, their hair loss was early in life, and it came on very suddenly and was rapid, and they began full MtF HRT before much time (no more than 3-4 years) of their big hair shedding phase happened. Anybody who waited over 5 years to begin HRT is “effed”, and the most dramatic recoveries are from HRT in less than 3 years from the big hair shedding. Unfortunately for me, I waited too long. I am going to need FUE transplants. When I was young, I had beautiful long, dense hair, and my loss was slow, over 2 decades. I wish I could’ve transitioned long ago, but couldn’t. Losing my hair has made me feel suicidal at time.
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Viability of Hair Grafts Based upon Environment:
Rob
October 3, 2017 at 3:39 pm
Hey Tom,
It’s a great question. I’m currently in the process of submitting a hypothetical Androgenetic Alopecia pathogenesis model to an academic journal, and answering this question is part of the discussion section — because it’s one of the biggest pieces of evidence that stands against the hypothesis. To quote from the paper:
“Most hair transplant surgeries transplant more than just the hair follicle itself. Follicular unit grafts (FUG) procedures transplant “1–4 terminal hair follicles, one (or rarely two) vellus follicles, associated sebaceous lobules, insertion of erector pili muscle, [and the] perifollicular neurovascular network”… hair transplant donor hair and its surrounding tissues are not likely affected by the same perifollicular fibrosis or dermal sheath thickening observed in Androgenetic Alopecia-affected tissues. Comparably, Androgenetic Alopecia progression often takes decades until completion. If a majority of transplanted donor hairs survive for at least one year after hair transplantation, it’s possible that their supporting hair follicles have not yet had enough time to develop perifollicular fibrosis or dermal sheath thickening, and eventually the onset of hair follicle miniaturization…
“Interestingly, one study comparing hair characteristics of transplanted hairs to and from legs and balding scalps showed that “the recipient site influences the growth characteristics of transplanted hairs”, with “the thickness of the epidermis, dermis, or subcutaneous tissue, blood supply, or other factors play[ing] a role in survival and growth rate differences.” Another study showed that balding human vellus hair regenerates just as well, and sometimes better, on immunodeficient mice versus terminal human hair. This suggests that tissue environment impacts hair follicle growth capabilities, and that the tissue environment in balding scalps may be a limiting factor in Androgenetic Alopecia hair follicle recovery. This is in-line with our hypothetical model, and suggests the need for long-term (decades) studies to determine the true fate of transplanted donor hairs in Androgenetic Alopecia sites.”
The short answer: hair transplants also transplant the tissues around donor hairs, and these tissues are unaffected by fibrosis, which give the hairs that they support a significant cushion window until miniaturization. Since hair loss is often a decades-long process, more studies are needed to determine if transplanted hair follicles really do thin, or if they stay protected forever. From my experience, the majority of readers who’ve gotten a hair transplant and emailed me are emailing me because their transplanted hairs eventually thinned — so there’s also the possibility that donor hair miniaturization is much more common than we think.
Best,
Rob
Rob
October 3, 2017 at 3:39 pm
Hey Tom,
It’s a great question. I’m currently in the process of submitting a hypothetical Androgenetic Alopecia pathogenesis model to an academic journal, and answering this question is part of the discussion section — because it’s one of the biggest pieces of evidence that stands against the hypothesis. To quote from the paper:
“Most hair transplant surgeries transplant more than just the hair follicle itself. Follicular unit grafts (FUG) procedures transplant “1–4 terminal hair follicles, one (or rarely two) vellus follicles, associated sebaceous lobules, insertion of erector pili muscle, [and the] perifollicular neurovascular network”… hair transplant donor hair and its surrounding tissues are not likely affected by the same perifollicular fibrosis or dermal sheath thickening observed in Androgenetic Alopecia-affected tissues. Comparably, Androgenetic Alopecia progression often takes decades until completion. If a majority of transplanted donor hairs survive for at least one year after hair transplantation, it’s possible that their supporting hair follicles have not yet had enough time to develop perifollicular fibrosis or dermal sheath thickening, and eventually the onset of hair follicle miniaturization…
“Interestingly, one study comparing hair characteristics of transplanted hairs to and from legs and balding scalps showed that “the recipient site influences the growth characteristics of transplanted hairs”, with “the thickness of the epidermis, dermis, or subcutaneous tissue, blood supply, or other factors play[ing] a role in survival and growth rate differences.” Another study showed that balding human vellus hair regenerates just as well, and sometimes better, on immunodeficient mice versus terminal human hair. This suggests that tissue environment impacts hair follicle growth capabilities, and that the tissue environment in balding scalps may be a limiting factor in Androgenetic Alopecia hair follicle recovery. This is in-line with our hypothetical model, and suggests the need for long-term (decades) studies to determine the true fate of transplanted donor hairs in Androgenetic Alopecia sites.”
The short answer: hair transplants also transplant the tissues around donor hairs, and these tissues are unaffected by fibrosis, which give the hairs that they support a significant cushion window until miniaturization. Since hair loss is often a decades-long process, more studies are needed to determine if transplanted hair follicles really do thin, or if they stay protected forever. From my experience, the majority of readers who’ve gotten a hair transplant and emailed me are emailing me because their transplanted hairs eventually thinned — so there’s also the possibility that donor hair miniaturization is much more common than we think.
Best,
Rob
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Kuba
October 15, 2017 at 8:20 pm
Can massage help also with PGD2 and PGE2?
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October 15, 2017 at 8:20 pm
Can massage help also with PGD2 and PGE2?
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Rob
October 18, 2017 at 8:42 pm
Hey Kuba — it’s possible, but I haven’t read any literature confirming this. In general, I think that increased PGD2 is more a symptom of inflammation in balding scalps, and as a result, PGD2 probably isn’t the most effective target to reverse pattern hair thinning.
https://perfecthairhealth.com/prost...scovery-or-just-another-sign-of-inflammation/
Best,
Rob