Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[Rysteve93]

I agree that bic should be used along with avodart.. the less dht you have the less bic has to compete with for the receptor. 5ar does more than a little work when working combined with bic. Thank you for the link appreciate it.

bic, avodart and E combined with oral minoxidil
They all compliment each other.

 

[Pls_NW-1]

I agree that bic should be used along with avodart.. the less dht you have the less bic has to compete with for the receptor. 5ar does more than a little work when working combined with bic. Thank you for the link appreciate it.

bic, avodart and E combined with oral minoxidil
They all compliment each other.

Eh. Don't use Bicalutamide with Dutasteride together. They interact, as @Itsnoahkennedy already explained it.

 

[Rysteve93]

“Bicalutamide may increase the blood levels of dutasteride. This can increase the risk of side effects such as impotence, decreased libido, ejaculation disorders, and breast enlargement or tenderness. You may need a dose adjustment” everything you’d expect from an aggressive regimen

 

[Almas]

I use Finasteride because Dutasteride is too expensive and not worth it given that the difference when used with Bicalutamide is negligible. Bicalutamide does 80-90% of the work, sometimes 100% (At doses from 100mg), so I don't see the point in spending such an aid on an auxiliary product.

Few people remember this, but Ein got results from 50mg of Bicalutamide without using Finasteride. Finasteride he connected later

 

[Norwoody]

Maybe just go with dutasteride 3x a week in that case, which is still more powerful than finasteride.

 

[Norwoody]

I use Finasteride because Dutasteride is too expensive and not worth it given that the difference when used with Bicalutamide is negligible. Bicalutamide does 80-90% of the work, sometimes 100% (At doses from 100mg), so I don't see the point in spending such an aid on an auxiliary product.

Few people remember this, but Ein got results from 50mg of Bicalutamide without using Finasteride. Finasteride he connected later

pic from him at that point?

 

[Pls_NW-1]

pic from him at that point?

Watch Ein's thread.

 

[Norwoody]

Watch Ein's thread.

link??

 

[Pls_NW-1]

https://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/threads/how-can-a-18-y-o-male-regrow-hairs-after-initial-shedding-from-anti-androgens.111183/

 

[Norwoody]

So it looks like he was doing 25mg/ED at one point with finasteride, eventually went to 50mg EOD with it, and didn't see any results but also no sides. Then went to 50mg ED without finasteride and saw results, but had some gyno and deployed 20mg tamox 2x a week. So again, just reinforces the notion that gyno precedes regrowth.

 

[Almas]

So it looks like he was doing 25mg/ED at one point with finasteride, eventually went to 50mg EOD with it, and didn't see any results but also no sides. Then went to 50mg ED without finasteride and saw results, but had some gyno and deployed 20mg tamox 2x a week. So again, just reinforces the notion that gyno precedes regrowth.

With castration, re-growth occurs, as when using Bicalutamide, but it does not increase E and does not cause gynecomastia. For moderate growth, androgen blocking is sufficient, which may not cause gynecomastia

 

[Norwoody]

With castration, re-growth occurs, as when using Bicalutamide, but it does not increase E and does not cause gynecomastia. For moderate growth, androgen blocking is sufficient, which may not cause gynecomastia

What are the most viable options for moderate growth without gyno in your opinion?

 

[Almas]

What are the most viable options for moderate growth without gyno in your opinion?

Castration lol. But this is unlikely to suit you. I don't have gynecomastia on Bicalutamide, I don't care anymore. My breasts are not receptive to the growth of E

 

[Norwoody]

Castration lol. But this is unlikely to suit you. I don't have gynecomastia on Bicalutamide, I don't care anymore. My breasts are not receptive to the growth of E

Which nut would you chop off if you had to pick just one?

 

[Pls_NW-1]

Which nut would you chop off if you had to pick just one?

I personally would choose the left one. Right one hangs more down, asymetric is ugly AF.

 

[Norwoody]

I personally would choose the left one. Right one hangs more down, asymetric is ugly AF.

I would just do eeny meeny miny moe

 

[Norwoody]

I think sonolm destroyed the one that had more hairs on its side because of the ARs

 

[Pls_NW-1]

I think sonolm destroyed the one that had more hairs on its side because of the ARs

What the hell. That's an amazing BroScience theory, seriously.

 

[Rysteve93]

I use Finasteride because Dutasteride is too expensive and not worth it given that the difference when used with Bicalutamide is negligible. Bicalutamide does 80-90% of the work, sometimes 100% (At doses from 100mg), so I don't see the point in spending such an aid on an auxiliary product.

Few people remember this, but Ein got results from 50mg of Bicalutamide without using Finasteride. Finasteride he connected later

Yeah, like you said before there is studies available with the use of both bic and dust in conjunction as a more aggressive prostate cancer treatment than both drugs used alone.

I’ve been using dust along side bud with no issues (so far) .. & no hair fall.

- I read your looking for overall density improvement, I’m sure loniten at 5-10mg would improve it a lot.

 

[Rysteve93]

as long as you have the dht controlled from the increase in free t from bic you should not loose hair with bic & 5ar. Most of the increased T will aromatise to E. In theory it’s possible to regrow with these two drug in conjunction.

that being said, Adding small amount of E (as I do) to further suppress T will be much more beneficial and also more side effect can come.

50mg bic, 0.5mg avodart, 1.5mg E(gel) & 10mg loniten - hoping this bring me that hairline growth I need!