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If you have rudimentary organizational skills you should have plenty of time for both studying and socializing in college.

Most people I know had both active social lives and studied hard. There's four years to do both.

A few people didn't manage, but there were usually other things going on hampering them such as marijuana addiction, poverty, thyroid problems, etc.

The few people I knew with perfect grades -- friends who were the very best students in the entire university and have gone on to successful careers as leaders in their fields -- all had rich, active social lives.

A friend of mine is starting medical school in a few months after spending a few years in the private sector, coding software for a fortune 500 company. He had sex with ~20 women or so during undergrad, including a few relationships.

Another guy got the aware for best student my year in the entire school. We've since lost touch. At the time aside from getting A's in all his classes, he was also a phenomenal tennis player, a marathon runner, researching quantum cryptography and linguistics, and teaching courses on ancient Sumerian at another college, among other things.

A third guy did math and physics with me ... also was an elite programmer in his spare time, studied neuroscience (later switched to that), was a political activist, into classical music, playing pool, and was pulling quite well ... we lost touch when he got up to 20 women two thirds of the way through university. He works at google now and makes 250k/year.

I could go on.

They went to many parties, not all the parties.

But still, it was risky, have a bad break-up in the wrong period, and it can easily make you fail your year.
No. WTF lol. If everybody who had a bad breakup failed their year, most people would have failed years.

Everything about your posting history Fred suggests that grades were not a priority for you. You are ideologically opposed to effort and you were most likely an average or slightly-above-average student -- something which takes no effort. Your post is likely retroactive excuse-making for the fact you didn't pull as well while in university. Whatever the reason was, it's not that you were busy from too many classes.
 

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The best years of opportunity for a man are in university if you're good looking enough. You're meeting large numbers of women all the time like it's nothing, they're mostly single, and they're usually hot even if they're too lazy to take care of themselves.

100%. Ahh, to be a fullhead at university again.
 

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The best years of opportunity for a man are in university if you're good looking enough. You're meeting large numbers of women all the time like it's nothing, they're mostly single, and they're usually hot even if they're too lazy to take care of themselves.

By age 30, they're not hot if they don't put in the effort.

Just like men.

Completely agree with this. I had time of my life during college. Unimaginable amount of fun. I was young, good looking and full of confidence. Life is so different now. My present is merely a shadow of the past.
 

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Completely agree with this. I had time of my life during college. Unimaginable amount of fun. I was young, good looking and full of confidence. Life is so different now. My present is merely a shadow of the past.

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Women who can still be called sexy after 30 are like the bald guys who are still attractive: the exception, not the norm.

That's only if they've been abusing their bodies with sun, food, lack of sleep etc.

When they take care of themselves they're good till at the absolute very least 35. Usually more like early 40's. Maybe something like 5% with good genetics and who look after themselves stay good looking till 50.

The thing with modern people is absolutely everyone over 35 (in the UK) is FAT. It's actually disgusting. People associate obesity with age but they've actually got nothing to do with one another. A lot of young people in the UK are going vegetarian, giving up smoking and alcohol etc nowadays and I think it's because they're terrified of looking like their parents.
 

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That's only if they've been abusing their bodies with sun, food, lack of sleep etc.

When they take care of themselves they're good till at the absolute very least 35. Usually more like early 40's. Maybe something like 5% with good genetics and who look after themselves stay good looking till 50.

The thing with modern people is absolutely everyone over 35 (in the UK) is FAT. It's actually disgusting. People associate obesity with age but they've actually got nothing to do with one another. A lot of young people in the UK are going vegetarian, giving up smoking and alcohol etc nowadays and I think it's because they're terrified of looking like their parents.

Here. Many beautiful looking girls who are non vegetarian will reject a guy who are vegetarians..

Thankfully.. Those who are nonveg will soon get fckd up and look like aunties..
 

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Here. Many beautiful looking girls who are non vegetarian will reject a guy who are vegetarians..

Thankfully.. Those who are nonveg will soon get fckd up and look like aunties..

Don't make up pseudoscience.

Meat doesn't cause obesity.
 

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I admire you vegetarians. I really don't know how you walk around all day without passing out.
I need meat to survive. Man cannot live on rabbit food.
 

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PJ, I totally agree with you post on page 20. I don't think there is suddenly some finite kind of age where women lose their appeal. Although I do not have a problem with some absolute statements being made on this forum (such as that baldness does erode a person's outer looks for the most part), there really is no absolute that women will really start to go downhill after 25. I've dated women older than me, younger than me, and IMO there are some pretty hot women out there within the ages where women are supposedly going downhill.
 

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Here. Many beautiful looking girls who are non vegetarian will reject a guy who are vegetarians...
Well this actually proves that women will use just any argument to reject a man they don't like.
 

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That's only if they've been abusing their bodies with sun, food, lack of sleep etc.

When they take care of themselves they're good till at the absolute very least 35. Usually more like early 40's. Maybe something like 5% with good genetics and who look after themselves stay good looking till 50.

Maybe being 44 I have an old man's perspective ;) BUT I have known women who at 30 and 35 were incredibly hot. Maybe what confounds is that most women after 30 have lots of baggage (bad marriages, kids) so they do not look so yummy anymore because communication is difficult, but not necessarily for physical reasons.[/QUOTE]
 

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All theoretical and mentioning high achievers again David. I'm barely above average when it comes to intelligence.

Why always mentioning exceptions? I also know people who were very social and had stellar grades, but there were one in a hundred.

I get distracted easily, I'm hypersensitive, and yes, I've failed a year because of a horrible break-up.

I'm human. One of the girls I broke up with also ended up giving up on her year because of the psychological pain. She was human too.

Stop projecting your ideals on everyone else David. In the end, I'm proud of my achievements, especially when I see where I come from (bald at 22, not a high IQ, etc.)

I've never worked insanely hard, but I've worked smart. I laugh at people who work hard, especially when they see I'm happier than them in every aspect of my life.

If your IQ is 115, you're not barely above average. That's a good IQ. If you were to line up 100 random people of your age, only ~16 of them would be smarter than you are. That's not theoretical by the way -- that's the definition of a 115 IQ. If your IQ was a height, you would be ~6'1 in the USA (maybe 6'2 in Belgium since they're taller there). You're not dumb, quit posting like you're cursed to be a retard or something.

Average people may not have as much ability, but they're usually not majoring in electrical engineering or medicine. If they're 30 IQ points dimmer, but learning education theory, they probably have more free time. It's not "theoretical" since I had friends in the day doing education theory and tutored some of them. I knew an average girl in education theory, she had a perfect 4.0/4.0 and lots of time for activities.

It's also not theoretical that lots of people have sex in university -- it's widely known. My post was also anecdotally confirmed by Dench57 and pjhair. You're the one projecting your unique viewpoint on everyone else that university years are a bad time for sex.
60% of first-year American college students have sex at least once a week:
http://www.livescience.com/38843-college-hookup-culture-myth.html
Are 60% of people "high-achievers"? Wow.

More numbers available here, presented more competently:
http://www.hookingupsmart.com/2012/...f-college-students-sexual-behavior-by-gender/
Only 34% of college students have had zero sexual partners.

For the first couple years, I was among those 34%. I grew up in a poor household and was relatively socially illiterate which meant I didn't know how to take advantage of opportunities, and had few opportunities to begin with for that matter. However, I took lots of courses, I wrote for the newspaper, I organized a conference, went to parties, etc. and was easily meeting lots of people all the time. That's what made it efficient in general: easy way to meet lots of people. It happens naturally. No need for bars or tinder. If you can meet 200+ new people in a year with little effort, you're of to a great start.

As for where you come from: you're a very privileged guy: Physically healthy, Caucasian, 6'3, apparently good-looking, higher IQ than 85% of the population, born in a rich socialist country, good family support. You can live with your parents through to your mid-20s, borrow their car, etc. I was somewhat privileged in that regard as well -- I lived with my parents until I was 23, though they didn't own a car and I had to pay utilities/food.

What matters most in terms of taking advantage in your early 20s is opportunities (are you good looking? rich? etc) and organizational skills. One of my friends, let's call him Derek, was as smart as the people I mentioned early. He taught himself Einstein's theory of special relativity when he was 12 -- most physics majors have trouble learning it at 19 ! However, he never amounted to anything last I checked, and he never had a girlfriend throughout university. He was addicted to marijuana among other problems. When I'd go to his house he would sometimes need to go smoke a joint (which was a ritual) after every homework problem solved. I lost touch with him but there's a rumour from another friend he later became addicted to crack cocaine. Intelligence only goes so far and cannot overcompensate horrible life choices.
 

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I admire you vegetarians. I really don't know how you walk around all day without passing out.
I need meat to survive. Man cannot live on rabbit food.

Vegetarians don't walk, but rather hop around in their search for sundry rabbit food.
Now your average frog on the other hand will prematurely croak
once he no longer has access to his natural ribbet food source. -)

Haha.. Possibly another strategy for "taking down that frog"?
 
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Completely agree with this. I had time of my life during college. Unimaginable amount of fun. I was young, good looking and full of confidence. Life is so different now. My present is merely a shadow of the past.

Even though I cannot completely understand as I'm a woman, I feel you. My life is completely different now than before I had hair loss (and some of my other issues), and only for the worse. Hair loss can wreck your life in so many ways. Just thinking about my past makes me want to cry, as I'll never have that back. I'll always live a sub-version of the life I used to live, and I have to accept that.
 

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Even though I cannot completely understand as I'm a woman, I feel you. My life is completely different now than before I had hair loss (and some of my other issues), and only for the worse. Hair loss can wreck your life in so many ways. Just thinking about my past makes me want to cry, as I'll never have that back. I'll always live a sub-version of the life I used to live, and I have to accept that.

You know what's worse? Knowing that I was the one who caused it. I was a NW0 at 27 with no hair-loss. I needlessly took finasteride that triggered adverse reaction in me that resulted in hair-loss. If only I had never taken that medicine, I will still have full head of hair. I wish there was a time machine so that I can go back in past and change that choice :(
 

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You know what's worse? Knowing that I was the one who caused it. I was a NW0 at 27 with no hair-loss. I needlessly took finasteride that triggered adverse reaction in me that resulted in hair-loss. If only I had never taken that medicine, I will still have full head of hair. I wish there was a time machine so that I can go back in past and change that choice :(

Yes, that sucks. Actually I'm in the same situation, because I quit my birth control pills which triggered the Androgenetic Alopecia. I would have probably (definitely) have suffered Androgenetic Alopecia at some point anyway, but it came years early because of my stupid choice. I understand you when you say it really hurts, because you beat yourself up for making that choice.
 

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Yes, that sucks. Actually I'm in the same situation, because I quit my birth control pills which triggered the Androgenetic Alopecia. I would have probably (definitely) have suffered Androgenetic Alopecia at some point anyway, but it came years early because of my stupid choice. I understand you when you say it really hurts, because you beat yourself up for making that choice.

You know what helps me? I just ask myself, if I can go back to past with no knowledge of future and all the circumstances remain exactly the same, will I still make the same choice? The answer is yes. All the circumstances, such as my ignorance that finasteride can cause such a reaction and my mental state at the moment, led me to make that choice. So it was in a way inevitable. I can't blame myself for something that was inevitable. It eases the pain somewhat.
 

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If your IQ is 115, you're not barely above average. That's a good IQ. If you were to line up 100 random people of your age, only ~16 of them would be smarter than you are. That's not theoretical by the way -- that's the definition of a 115 IQ. If your IQ was a height, you would be ~6'1 in the USA (maybe 6'2 in Belgium since they're taller there). You're not dumb, quit posting like you're cursed to be a retard or something.

Average people may not have as much ability, but they're usually not majoring in electrical engineering or medicine. If they're 30 IQ points dimmer, but learning education theory, they probably have more free time. It's not "theoretical" since I had friends in the day doing education theory and tutored some of them. I knew an average girl in education theory, she had a perfect 4.0/4.0 and lots of time for activities.

It's also not theoretical that lots of people have sex in university -- it's widely known. My post was also anecdotally confirmed by Dench57 and pjhair. You're the one projecting your unique viewpoint on everyone else that university years are a bad time for sex.
60% of first-year American college students have sex at least once a week:
http://www.livescience.com/38843-college-hookup-culture-myth.html
Are 60% of people "high-achievers"? Wow.

More numbers available here, presented more competently:
http://www.hookingupsmart.com/2012/...f-college-students-sexual-behavior-by-gender/
Only 34% of college students have had zero sexual partners.

For the first couple years, I was among those 34%. I grew up in a poor household and was relatively socially illiterate which meant I didn't know how to take advantage of opportunities, and had few opportunities to begin with for that matter. However, I took lots of courses, I wrote for the newspaper, I organized a conference, went to parties, etc. and was easily meeting lots of people all the time. That's what made it efficient in general: easy way to meet lots of people. It happens naturally. No need for bars or tinder. If you can meet 200+ new people in a year with little effort, you're of to a great start.

As for where you come from: you're a very privileged guy: Physically healthy, Caucasian, 6'3, apparently good-looking, higher IQ than 85% of the population, born in a rich socialist country, good family support. You can live with your parents through to your mid-20s, borrow their car, etc. I was somewhat privileged in that regard as well -- I lived with my parents until I was 23, though they didn't own a car and I had to pay utilities/food.

What matters most in terms of taking advantage in your early 20s is opportunities (are you good looking? rich? etc) and organizational skills. One of my friends, let's call him Derek, was as smart as the people I mentioned early. He taught himself Einstein's theory of special relativity when he was 12 -- most physics majors have trouble learning it at 19 ! However, he never amounted to anything last I checked, and he never had a girlfriend throughout university. He was addicted to marijuana among other problems. When I'd go to his house he would sometimes need to go smoke a joint (which was a ritual) after every homework problem solved. I lost touch with him but there's a rumour from another friend he later became addicted to crack cocaine. Intelligence only goes so far and cannot overcompensate horrible life choices.

Higher Intelligence if not handle well can lead to destruction...
Going up step by step is the key.

Knowlege can lead to arrogance..

Just for time pass..i did one online Iq exam..i don't know name of site.
I know IQ test do not matter at all,
All it maters is practical knowlede.

So..after completed exam..
I got a messege on screen.. That..

Congratulations... You are in top 100 or something like 100000 test candidates..
But
Last Line that i will never forget..

"Even if you are one of the most high iq ranker on this site..
Don't forget that there will always be someone more intelligent person than you."

Test was taken in 2009.

I dont want to specify that iq..no. :D
 
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