How you deal with setbacks is what ....

[vondoom]

nah tattoos are a red flags

- weird tattoos
- daddy issues
- weird coloured hair
- high body count
- uses social media
etc

you dont want to be around girls like this lol

trash tattoos suck... tattoos on neck and so on suck...
but nice tattoos are nice...

 

[Feelsbadman]

is anyone here been burnt by a women before? this is one reason why i dont really care that much about having a gf lately
when my ex left me and i was crying my eyes out like a baby thinking about how she's having sex with other guys
worst experience of my life
i dont want to fee lthat feeling again

 

[Feelsbadman]

I think I have had it much worse than anybody in this planet but I am not going to get into details so I am not recognized in my real identity as I want to be anonymous.

You will be hurt, only God knows for how long, in my case it was more than a year. But I processed everything and now I am much stronger and I am able to identify and create elements to have more qualities as an individual.

I am telling you, this depressive it's all over state will not get you anywhere, but is part of the process. At some point you have to continue, if you were to want to continue. Otherwise you will remind stuck and nothing will help it.

Thanks, I've made leaps and bounds and i'm finally over it and processed it as well
I know the red flags and the qualities i want in a partner but that experience was so awful it makes me not want to be in that position or even have another relationship again
do you find this as well?

 

[doubleindemnity]

I don't think that I will read all of this thread but I'll respond to one of these.

To be honest, I’m just as competitive as him and you. I have a decent career to the point this lady labelled my job ‘prestigious’ given the company I work for. Met other women who are attracted to it, especially those who work in tech.

That did not happen overnight, worked hard at it where I’m doing a Senior role.

I have status.

I work out a lot, 3-4 times a week

I am on treatments to maintain my hair and have a hairloss appropriate style

I use apps regularly and create opportunities, by regularly, every day swiping, it’s time consuming

you reap what you sow, there is more to it than hair

I'm sorry to say that these are all standard things. Firstly, career isn't relevant for dating so let's leave that aside. @Feelsbadman was ripped and worked out more than 4 times per week. He was on finasteride, which is a treatment sufficiently aggressive that you and I wouldn't go near it. He used apps just like you and got nowhere. If you spoke about going out 2 hours per night for years then I might think that as working hard. But you are doing what I and everybody does, with different results. Your opportunities come from apps and it is common knowledge that, there, it is all about looks and photos that express the looks. Are you going to try to refute this? I don't think that anybody would. My thinking is that you, I and @Feelsbadman are quite similar as people and that our differences in outlook and results are due to different luck. Since the main differences here are Norwood level, I assert that it's primarily due to differences in hair.

Look at the spectacular 400m hurdles finals we saw. I am thinking of the men's final. What about the scores of athletes who did not make it past the first heat? Are they not hard working enough and with the wrong mindset? Now what about the scores of athletes in each country who did not make the national olympic team? Do they not work hard enough? Lack of talent surely must be a factor, and I think that there is an analogous argument here with you, where talent can be replaced by hair.

Keep on trying, that’s all

find it hard to believe that you get zero matches, I’m not ripped and I have over 150 matches in 3 months

Yes this is why I think that these discussions are not fruitful. Non bald guys can not really understand bald guys (and sometimes vice versa). Stuff like this really does happen to bald guys and if he keeps trying he will eventually run out of people to swipe, even in a large city. That is what happened to me. Cold approach doesn't work for bald guys in my opinion, but even for the sake of argument if it did, we could suggest that he goes and does that. But that takes maybe 5-10 hours per week compared with the 2 hours per week on apps. So already he is in a weaker position to you because he has less time to work on his career, work out etc. Do you see now how it's not as simple as hard work leading to good results, and bad results necessarily following from a lack of hard work?

 

[vondoom]

I don't think that I will read all of this thread but I'll respond to one of these.



I'm sorry to say that these are all standard things. Firstly, career isn't relevant for dating so let's leave that aside. @Feelsbadman was ripped and worked out more than 4 times per week. He was on finasteride, which is a treatment sufficiently aggressive that you and I wouldn't go near it. He used apps just like you and got nowhere. If you spoke about going out 2 hours per night for years then I might think that as working hard. But you are doing what I and everybody does, with different results. Your opportunities come from apps and it is common knowledge that, there, it is all about looks and photos that express the looks. Are you going to try to refute this? I don't think that anybody would. My thinking is that you, I and @Feelsbadman are quite similar as people and that our differences in outlook and results are due to different luck. Since the main differences here are Norwood level, I assert that it's primarily due to differences in hair.

Look at the spectacular 400m hurdles finals we saw. I am thinking of the men's final. What about the scores of athletes who did not make it past the first heat? Are they not hard working enough and with the wrong mindset? Now what about the scores of athletes in each country who did not make the national olympic team? Do they not work hard enough? Lack of talent surely must be a factor, and I think that there is an analogous argument here with you, where talent can be replaced by hair.



Yes this is why I think that these discussions are not fruitful. Non bald guys can not really understand bald guys (and sometimes vice versa). Stuff like this really does happen to bald guys and if he keeps trying he will eventually run out of people to swipe, even in a large city. That is what happened to me. Cold approach doesn't work for bald guys in my opinion, but even for the sake of argument if it did, we could suggest that he goes and does that. But that takes maybe 5-10 hours per week compared with the 2 hours per week on apps. So already he is in a weaker position to you because he has less time to work on his career, work out etc. Do you see now how it's not as simple as hard work leading to good results, and bad results necessarily following from a lack of hard work?

career is as important for relationships as are looks...
you can deny it all you want, but if you got basic income, that is basic... you got good income, or even real good income and it works a lot in your favour...

 

[doubleindemnity]

career is as important for relationships as are looks...
you can deny it all you want, but if you got basic income, that is basic... you got good income, or even real good income and it works a lot in your favour...

Ok but then I could extend my argument to include that. But in my experience that has not been the case at all. Going from college student to employee in what some people might consider prestigious didn't help at all. A bald guy is going to get turned down before his financial situation is known.

 

[Oknow]

I don't think that I will read all of this thread but I'll respond to one of these.



I'm sorry to say that these are all standard things. Firstly, career isn't relevant for dating so let's leave that aside. @Feelsbadman was ripped and worked out more than 4 times per week. He was on finasteride, which is a treatment sufficiently aggressive that you and I wouldn't go near it. He used apps just like you and got nowhere. If you spoke about going out 2 hours per night for years then I might think that as working hard. But you are doing what I and everybody does, with different results. Your opportunities come from apps and it is common knowledge that, there, it is all about looks and photos that express the looks. Are you going to try to refute this? I don't think that anybody would. My thinking is that you, I and @Feelsbadman are quite similar as people and that our differences in outlook and results are due to different luck. Since the main differences here are Norwood level, I assert that it's primarily due to differences in hair.

Look at the spectacular 400m hurdles finals we saw. I am thinking of the men's final. What about the scores of athletes who did not make it past the first heat? Are they not hard working enough and with the wrong mindset? Now what about the scores of athletes in each country who did not make the national olympic team? Do they not work hard enough? Lack of talent surely must be a factor, and I think that there is an analogous argument here with you, where talent can be replaced by hair.



Yes this is why I think that these discussions are not fruitful. Non bald guys can not really understand bald guys (and sometimes vice versa). Stuff like this really does happen to bald guys and if he keeps trying he will eventually run out of people to swipe, even in a large city. That is what happened to me. Cold approach doesn't work for bald guys in my opinion, but even for the sake of argument if it did, we could suggest that he goes and does that. But that takes maybe 5-10 hours per week compared with the 2 hours per week on apps. So already he is in a weaker position to you because he has less time to work on his career, work out etc. Do you see now how it's not as simple as hard work leading to good results, and bad results necessarily following from a lack of hard work?

you are a joker, I’ve heard it with my own ears, women complimenting me over my career choices

not everyone has a good career lol
Lots are in low paid roles working in small to medium companies. Someone working at a top investment bank, say JP Morgan, as an example is automatically more attractive than working in an unknown company

yes it does matter, women like ambitious men , and having a good career working in a multi national shows that you are, but alone is not enough it’s part of an overall package

 

[vondoom]

Ok but then I could extend my argument to include that. But in my experience that has not been the case at all. Going from college student to employee in what some people might consider prestigious didn't help at all. A bald guy is going to get turned down before his financial situation is known.

yeah that is the argument you always go back to, since it is the most convenient...
correct me if i am wrong, but apparently you got a good job and enough money to retire early, so you got it better than most...

someone said you are actually decent looking (of course that is subjective, but that means you are not hideous)...

you did have a date...

you arent stupid...

and i bet if i met you, i would find some more positive points...

but whenever someone mentions a good point about you, you answer with “im bald”... i would pop finasteride and min and dutasteride and whatever like a motherfucker in your case... i would even ignore sides if baldness made me that depressed...

or get a system, if money is not the problem, you should be able to get a good one and then do it all again and see if you got more success... i certainly hope you do, but you cant complain about being bald and not doing anything...

 

[vondoom]

you are a joker, I’ve heard it with my own ears, women complimenting me over my career choices

not everyone has a good career lol
Lots are in low paid roles working in small to medium companies. Someone working at a top investment bank, say JP Morgan, as an example is automatically more attractive than working in an unknown company

yes it does matter, women like ambitious men , but having a good career alone is not enough it’s part of an overall package

yeah when i was 20, women didnt care... when i was 29, women started caring, but style and whatever was still enough... after that, a normal job could be a dealbreaker fast... and that didnt have anything to do with women being gold diggers, just with being able to live a halfway normal life and not having to worry...

 

[Oknow]

career is as important for relationships as are looks...
you can deny it all you want, but if you got basic income, that is basic... you got good income, or even real good income and it works a lot in your favour...

he’s a fool, just goes to show his lack of experience

can’t believe he is disputing it

if there are two guys -

1) working for Facebook as a Senior xxxx

and

2) working as a janitor

Guy number 1 is going to always be taken more seriously and seen as more attractive/ambitious

I remember years ago when I was at the start of my career working in small unknown companies, went on a date with one person, after telling her where I worked she dismissively remarked ‘never heard of it’, now women are so different after becoming established. I get treated with respect.

 

[Oknow]

yeah that is the argument you always go back to, since it is the most convenient...
correct me if i am wrong, but apparently you got a good job and enough money to retire early, so you got it better than most...

someone said you are actually decent looking (of course that is subjective, but that means you are not hideous)...

you did have a date...

you arent stupid...

and i bet if i met you, i would find some more positive points...

but whenever someone mentions a good point about you, you answer with “im bald”... i would pop finasteride and min and dutasteride and whatever like a motherfucker in your case... i would even ignore sides if baldness made me that depressed...

or get a system, if money is not the problem, you should be able to get a good one and then do it all again and see if you got more success... i certainly hope you do, but you cant complain about being bald and not doing anything...

he has a point in the sense that alone it adds very little value

But it’s still a huge factor, when women say that they like ‘ambitious men who are going places’, they are basically saying that they want a man ‘who is working in an established company *cough* multi-national corporate on good money, with a nice title’

One of the reasons I get away with living at home is because I have status through my career choices. They can see I’m not a deadbeat.

 

[vondoom]

he has a point in the sense that alone it adds very little value

But it’s still a huge factor, when women say that they like ‘ambitious men who are going places’, they are basically saying that they want a man ‘who is working in an established company *cough* multi-national corporate on good money, with a nice title’

One of the reasons I get away with living at home is because I have status through my career choices. They can see I’m not a deadbeat.

thing is: he could do way better

 

[Oknow]

If another decade passes as a single man would you still hold that same view?

I probably would settle with a plain Jane by my late 30s if the situation does not improve

 

[DoctorHouse]

I probably would settle with a plain Jane by my late 30s if the situation does not improve

Not the answer I was expecting. Why?

 

[Oknow]

I just matched with the hottest girl i've matched with in years off tinder and she is actually responding

omg!

BUT

she has tattoos,
lives in the ghetto and a similar place to my ex
is really chav (like my ex)
and seems really slutty


aw sh*t here we go again

being dead serious as well not trolling . lol

women having tattoos seems very common

personally think they look tacky to be honest

but there you go, you’ve just proved me right, with persistence can get matches even if it’s not the type you want

 

[Oknow]

Not the answer I was expecting. Why?

I don’t want to be single forever , do at some point want to get into a long term relationship

I’m holding out right now because I’m still relatively young , 35 at my peak

 

[Oknow]

Yes this is why I think that these discussions are not fruitful. Non bald guys can not really understand bald guys (and sometimes vice versa). Stuff like this really does happen to bald guys and if he keeps trying he will eventually run out of people to swipe, even in a large city. That is what happened to me. Cold approach doesn't work for bald guys in my opinion, but even for the sake of argument if it did, we could suggest that he goes and does that. But that takes maybe 5-10 hours per week compared with the 2 hours per week on apps. So already he is in a weaker position to you because he has less time to work on his career, work out etc. Do you see now how it's not as simple as hard work leading to good results, and bad results necessarily following from a lack of hard work?

Cold approach doesn’t work for a lot of guys, that is the reason why I use apps

 

[Feelsbadman]

Sometimes i still think about my ex and wonder about her is this normal?
someties i think mybe she wasn't that bad?
i guess its ust delusinal thinking right
she was very trashy

 

[DoctorHouse]

I don’t want to be single forever , do at some point want to get into a long term relationship

I’m holding out right now because I’m still relatively young , 35 at my peak

That is the norm. Most people will settle including you. You made a very good point. Most people want to be in a relationship just so they are not alone. And they will settle if that means they won't be alone.

 

[Feelsbadman]

That is the norm. Most people will settle including you. You made a very good point. Most people want to be in a relationship just so they are not alone. And they will settle if that means they won't be alone.

this is what i did and it badly backfired and left me traumatized for 2 years