New Dermaroller Study; Thoughts, comments?

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zombiehair

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Mutilating my head and putting sperm on it… Can't even believe i'm considering the idea right now.

When you put it that way odalback it does sound a bit crazy :)

who would have thought after endless century's of looking for a cure :)


 

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Mutilating my head and putting sperm on it… Can't even believe i'm considering the idea right now. Squeegee, since you're the most passionate about the whole thing and know more about the science of hairloss that we pussified hair losers could even comprehend in our lifetime, will you consider a bukkake on your scalp with the help of some ipad users? PGE2 galore!!!

hahahahahhahaha! you always comes with the most random **** on here LOL.. No I will stick with the derma rolling!.. but Odal feel free to try it and report pictures with feedbacks!
 

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Odal feel free to try it and report pictures with feedbacks!

Look at your avatar Squeegee, after all the prostaglandin studies you read so carefully you didn't see the key was just there from the very beginning. Pschhtt!

Anyway, let's call L'Oreal tomorrow and suggest our crucial finding. They can't ignore it anymore.
 

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Well I don't know of anything else that induces PGE2, wasn't Cet suppose to do that? Or Quarticin I think. Anyways, at this point I am willing to try out my own jizz, and I did read on it and it does seem to be very true that it does contain it.
So we can now just wait a week and have a good amount and then use it the days just after the wounding, so days 2-4 or maybe even day one. One thing that concerns me is that since sperm is suppose to be like high testosterone, wouldn't that be like applying DHT to the scalp and in turn killing the hair? Or that is another process entirely?
 

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Consciously bleeding my head to death and spreading my own semen on it, just for the sake of looking normal one day… How did I get there? This thread is hypnotic, it takes you with Indian science and after reading 500 posts you end up behaving blindly like some hopeless hare krishna fool.
 

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Squeegee, you're like a mad, reckless scientist.

As interesting as this might sound to some, I'd suggest having a little bit of patience and not do anything too dramatic to yourself :)
 

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This bothers me, not only the dermaroller group have >10% more hair at the baseline, they even have a greater average haircount at baseline than the minoxidil group did post treatment

people at early stages of male pattern baldness may respond to treatment better than those who get treatment later
with no knowlage of standard diviation of the original group i am not sure wheter it was difficult to acheive a more balenced baseline, the groups were not selected randomly or just a case that this occured by the most unlucky of coincidences but with a sample that size i would expect a diffrence of 1-2% not 10
 

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Mutilating my head and putting sperm on it… Can't even believe i'm considering the idea right now… Squeegee, since you're young at heart and know more about the science of hairloss than we pussified hair losers could even comprehend in our lifetime, will you consider a bukkake on your scalp with the help of some ipad users? PGE2 galore!!!

I'm already doing it!

I have participated in the thread zombiehair is talking about, and I have been putting semen on my scalp for about two weeks by now. Apparently, spermidine is a hair growth promoter, and also, semen contains a lot of PGE2. But it has to be "natural" spermidine, that is, the one which comes from your own semen, as synthesized spermidine lacks the key prostaglandines (or so I heard). I am applying semen in areas where I don't have hair loss, as apparently, too much spermidine can be toxic to hair follicles, so we first have to find the limit our follicles can take. I have been putting semen in areas of my scalp two times a day for two weeks now. Some would say that may be overkill, but up to this point, my hair seems fine, it has not be damaged. But, as I am applying the semen on areas of my scalp where I don't have hair loss and have a very thick hair I can't say I am seeying anything positive (I suppose I wont be seeing any change there, as my hair there just can't get any better or healthier, but the first thing I want to find out is if too much can damage my scalp or not, and how much is too much).

My only doubt is to know if semen is a good vehicle by itself or not. And also, I'm still waiting for my dermaroller to arrive.
 

squeegee

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Squeegee, you're like a mad, reckless scientist.

As interesting as this might sound to some, I'd suggest having a little bit of patience and not do anything too dramatic to yourself :)

you got that right!!

[video=youtube;SR5BfQ4rEqQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR5BfQ4rEqQ[/video]

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I'm already doing it!

I have participated in the thread zombiehair is talking about, and I have been putting semen on my scalp for about two weeks by now. Apparently, spermidine is a hair growth promoter, and also, semen contains a lot of PGE2. But it has to be "natural" spermidine, that is, the one which comes from your own semen, as synthesized spermidine lacks the key prostaglandines (or so I heard). I am applying semen in areas where I don't have hair loss, as apparently, too much spermidine can be toxic to hair follicles, so we first have to find the limit our follicles can take. I have been putting semen in areas of my scalp two times a day for two weeks now. Some would say that may be overkill, but up to this point, my hair seems fine, it has not be damaged. But, as I am applying the semen on areas of my scalp where I don't have hair loss and have a very thick hair I can't say I am seeying anything positive (I suppose I wont be seeing any change there, as my hair there just can't get any better or healthier, but the first thing I want to find out is if too much can damage my scalp or not, and how much is too much).

My only doubt is to know if semen is a good vehicle by itself or not. And also, I'm still waiting for my dermaroller to arrive.

OMG LOL

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This bothers me, not only the dermaroller group have >10% more hair at the baseline, they even have a greater average haircount at baseline than the minoxidil group did post treatment

people at early stages of male pattern baldness may respond to treatment better than those who get treatment later
with no knowlage of standard diviation of the original group i am not sure wheter it was difficult to acheive a more balenced baseline, the groups were not selected randomly or just a case that this occured by the most unlucky of coincidences but with a sample that size i would expect a diffrence of 1-2% not 10

It is only theoretical.. Deep derma rolling + minoxidil will get you great results.

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Look at your avatar Squeegee, after all the prostaglandin studies you read so carefully you didn't see the key was just there from the very beginning. Pschhtt!

Anyway, let's call L'Oreal tomorrow and suggest our crucial finding. They can't ignore it anymore.

hahhaah good stuff Odal! Nah.. I won't put my own semen on my coconut. Not that low or desperate yet.
 

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I think that's great that you're doing that ganonford. I also applied a bit today on my scalp, but I am applying it on places where I have hair loss, which is basically everywhere. Anyways, I applied it with lipogaine because it should reach the hair follicle that way, or maybe kill the pge2 in the process I don know. I wonder if it works if women will be asking for people to donate some some sperm haha. Uk sure, ill jizz in you, but you have to help me get there first. I need to get a 2.0 or 2.5mm derma roller. The follicle is at least 1.5 and we probably won't be going deep enough with the 1.5mm.


Interestingly, they have found that many p**rn stars that swallowed had a lot of hair in their stomach bag, doctors never understood why they had it, but I guess it was all that pge2 :D
 

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I think that's great that you're doing that ganonford. I also applied a bit today on my scalp, but I am applying it on places where I have hair loss, which is basically everywhere. Anyways, I applied it with lipogaine because it should reach the hair follicle that way, or maybe kill the pge2 in the process I don know. I wonder if it works if women will be asking for people to donate some some sperm haha. Uk sure, ill jizz in you, but you have to help me get there first. I need to get a 2.0 or 2.5mm derma roller. The follicle is at least 1.5 and we probably won't be going deep enough with the 1.5mm.


Interestingly, they have found that many p**rn stars that swallowed had a lot of hair in their stomach bag, doctors never understood why they had it, but I guess it was all that pge2 :D

Get a 2.5mm at least.. The pain is almost noticeable compare to 1.5mm.. I waiting for my 3mm.. We learn something everyday.. Hair grow in a acidic stomach.. I can't masturbate no more to pornstar.. gonna think about hair in their stomach LOL You guys are really desperate to add sperm to your head. What is the molecular weight of semen? Does it reach the dermis lol
 

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Get a 2.5mm at least.. The pain is almost noticeable compare to 1.5mm.. I waiting for my 3mm.. We learn something everyday.. Hair grow in a acidic stomach.. I can't masturbate no more to pornstar.. gonna think about hair in their stomach LOL You guys are really desperate to add sperm to your head. What is the molecular weight of semen? Does it reach the dermis lol
Hahaha, I was just joking about the p**rn stars. I am now doubting the sperm thing now, I will try to find a specialist online and write an email.
 

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There might be something to semen after all, but with all things we need to get it absorbed or else it will be useless

http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0022564

FGF-9 has a molecular weight of 23,000 dalton. Human skin only allowes about 500 dalton to pass through. Microneedling is supposed to allow up to around 10,000;

http://dermapen.com/micro-needling-drug-delivery/

If you guys really are doing it, then even dermarolling won't help. You'd need to basically strip away skin substantially, a large and wide wound would have to be there in order for FGF-9 to work its magic. Dermabrasion could be it. Another member posted a biopsy punch device on eBay as well, that could work.

Where in the world is rambo anyways, he is the designated translator. He is the one that is suppose to give read all this stuff and summarize it in a neat and ordered fashion :D
 

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Even the barbecue wasn't completely cristal ball at the temples, so the 4 month full regrowth seems reasonable, i wonder if he would regrow this quickly if he had a shiny scalp that was miniaturized for years.

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Notice how they temple are still not grown yet?

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Bam!! temples are now showing as well.

BBQ guy FTW!!!

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There might be something to semen after all, but with all things we need to get it absorbed or else it will be useless

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0022564

FGF-9 has a molecular weight of 23,000 dalton. Human skin only allowes about 500 dalton to pass through. Microneedling is supposed to allow up to around 10,000;

http://dermapen.com/micro-needling-drug-delivery/

If you guys really are doing it, then even dermarolling won't help. You'd need to basically strip away skin substantially, a large and wide wound would have to be there in order for FGF-9 to work its magic. Dermabrasion could be it. Another member posted a biopsy punch device on eBay as well, that could work.

Where in the world is rambo anyways, he is the designated translator. He is the one that is suppose to give read all this stuff and summarize it in a neat and ordered fashion :D

This is where Minoxidil/Miconazole Nitrate works his magic. Vasodilator!!
 

squeegee

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What's the actual link to the BBQ guy, you guys talk about it but I don't know the full story. I'm not so sure on Mico anymore

Use the 4% .
 

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Squeegee, overall with all your understanding and your direct experience of it so far, what's your long term expectation of the DR + minoxidil concept? Is it foolish to hope to get back all or most of our teenage hair eventually? I mean, you must think about where all this could take you in the morning when you drink your coffee or tea, right? so what do you expect these days?
 

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So maybe the question is does it need to be "your" semen?? lmao...How about bull semen?? How about female ejaculate?? Now that's something I could get in to
 
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