"paying For It" By Chester Brown - Tales From Norwood Cemetery

[shookwun]

Bruh I told you what yy suffer from a mixture of p**rn induced ed and to much masterbation. Your body and mind doesn't produce enough dopamine to get turned on and achieve an erection with a Normale female. Need to rewire.


Not ever being with a women before it's almost alien how your dick will respond to the real thing.


Don't need v**** because it's not a physical problem. Need to abstain from master bation and p**rn all together. Give it some time. Cuddle with women and it will come back eventually. Your sick won't be amazing at first, might even have a bit of pre mature ejaculating but it will come back



Time

 

[Exodus2011]

@Dante92 , you have better stats than me assuming we have similar faces. i'm norwood 6 and 168 centimeters. so think about me if you feel down lol.

 

[Saurabhaj]

My one senior is physically handicap,
He has one leg shorter than Other.

So he fall into phycically Handicap category of 30 to 50%.
Because of this, he enjoys reservation in any degree or jobs.
He got diploma in Radiology with half marks than average intelligent guys.


He has looks,extremely handsome,about 9s..in pics..
Height of 5 feet 10,well 5 inch higher than average,so can be called Tall.

Still he got married last year,his wife is so beautiful.
I am not jealous or like that,.but

My another friend once told me,this is not handicap, his gait is also not awkward...
I don't know whether this Girl have any physical flaw or that, was good decision from that girl,
But i will not say that girl made compromise, because except that leg problem,he is perfect.

On the other hand,many other people who are not physically handicapped have tons of problem,
Many haven't been with girl,
Many guys didn't have 5/10 girls even in their facebook friend list, to think of life is too far to think.
Few guys have to spend two,three years to get a girl.

Few friends are so simple, they didn't even think of girls.

 

[Joan]

American Association of Retired Persons. However, I am not retired so it does not apply to me just yet.

Good news, DH. You don't have to be retired. I'm surprised your mailbox isn't getting deluged with membership offers like mine has been.

 

[Joan]

Couples tend to look like each other.

And act like each other.

 

[Bill Sussman]

All this sh*t man.... had the same epiphany recently. whomever it was that said people "live" in their 20s and never really appreciate it, i feel the same way in a sense... same exact thing crossed my mind, and not a truer f*****g statment could have been said. recently been thinking about these opportunities that came but i was too fkkn scared to take. kinda blame myself, kinda blame my upbringing. i was the anti-popular child in school. product of a dysfunctional family and a hostile home environment as well, so i had to teach myself social skills after i graduated high school. got really good at it, a truly lovable sarcastic prick. then hairloss hits and it just knocked the wind out of me. got me thinking about all these opportunities and sh*t that i just froze... like a dear in the headlights. gave myself permission to fail, but no permission to succeed. like always. f*** me.

however, i'm young. early 20s. and as said before most people don't realize this sh*t until they're well into their 40s and 50s. Guess that's what they mean by a mid life crisis. At least for me, I'm young enough to do something about it and be ready to not give a sh*t about success or failure the next time and just go for it. take care of the other things in my life first, and the way i see it, Tsuji will figure out his thing before i'm 30. that's plenty of time to still enjoy my life and get my feet set in the meantime. the only thing that bothers me is this was the same sh*t i was saying trying to get the f*** away from home 5 years ago. really hope myself 5 years from now is sitting back smiling saying "that poor bastard doesn't realize this will all be worth it someday for him"... guess the best thing to do is learn from all of this as much as it sucks and drains me. time to fatten up on that humble pie and brace myself for the cold winter ahead. pursue the important things and make something of my life, and in a few years this nightmare will all be over. i haven't been a member on these forums for long, but been lurking for some time. and these days, it seems like there is a new positive energy around here which i'm glad to see. either way, i love y'all and we're all in this together. anyways, the need for sleep and 4:20 has finally caught up to me and i'm talking out my ***. f***. cheers y'all. hang in there.

 

[buckthorn]

Thanks man. You're a smart and informative guy too and I like that you post here, and I know other good people like you too.

I feel like I'm running out of time. I turn 33 in November. I want children. Women who are desirable are predominantly taken. There are some desirable women left, but they want men who have more height, more money. more muscles, more hair, etc. I wish I knew how to put in all this effort when I was 24.

I am 34 and I definitely understand the feeling. But, imagine you get these procedures done, and hell, even get some of your hair back? You may be mid-late thirties, but who says you can't date a woman who's mid-late twenties. Hell, the majority of women that age want an older man. Especially one that's already established, with a PhD. There is also the alternative of adoption. I know it sucks. Baldness is the FIRST thing that has taken away my ability to see the positive in things.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Precisely, he's way better looking than me, and I've got his same problem (erectile dysfunction and no libido) due to finasteride. And I'm not even 30.


Anyway, @David_MPN I'm really sorry you went through that sh*t, I'm happy to know you're feeling better now. but judging from your posts and your pictures, I can assure you:
-you're better looking than me
-you're much more intelligent than me, I'm quite sure you have a near genius IQ

And these are HUGE advantages, which I don't possess, since I'm ugly and of average intelligence.

I wouldn't know how to estimate your IQ, but I doubt it's average. IQ is overrated anyway as it's not omprehensive, there are things not included like hand-eye coordination, sense of direction, humour, all of which are part of the sophistication of the brain.

Hair is a really poor excuse for a 24 year-old not to live his life in part because superior treatments are around the corner. You wont be a fullhead at 25 but you could be one at 30 if you play your cards right. Might as well be in a position to cope until then and to capitalize when that day comes.

 

[jd_uk]

I wouldn't know how to estimate your IQ, but I doubt it's average. IQ is overrated anyway as it's not omprehensive, there are things not included like hand-eye coordination, sense of direction, humour, all of which are part of the sophistication of the brain.

Hair is a really poor excuse for a 24 year-old not to live his life in part because superior treatments are around the corner. You wont be a fullhead at 25 but you could be one at 30 if you play your cards right. Might as well be in a position to cope until then and to capitalize when that day comes.

I keep hearing this thing about 'superior treatments just around the corner' but do people genuinely believe it? I read a site promising the end of hair loss by 2020 but all it is is promises. The same promises existed 20 years ago and 10 years ago. IF hair cloning is discovered as successful in 2020 then how quickly will it really be available and how affordable will it be to the average person? I imagine that it will be more like 20 years before anything like that is available to the average person and that is if it is viable. Now if a topical which works some way other than interfering eith hormones come along then that is a different matter but it would take a pretty big scientific discovery.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

I keep hearing this thing about 'superior treatments just around the corner' but do people genuinely believe it? I read a site promising the end of hair loss by 2020 but all it is is promises. The same promises existed 20 years ago and 10 years ago. IF hair cloning is discovered as successful in 2020 then how quickly will it really be available and how affordable will it be to the average person? I imagine that it will be more like 20 years before anything like that is available to the average person and that is if it is viable. Now if a topical which works some way other than interfering eith hormones come along then that is a different matter but it would take a pretty big scientific discovery.

20 years ago, did they have dutasteride, nizoral shampoo, variable dosages and vehicles of minoxidil, FUE transplants, and black market access to RU 58851, all of which have helped and continue to help people?

Now: The Brotzu lotion is around the corner, Histogen is entering phase III trials which hasn't happened for a hair loss treatment in forever, setipiprant and CB0301 are in trials, and there is the Tsuji treatment being developed.

ETA: What Dante92 needs come ~2020 or so is approximately $10,000 in the bank, maybe $15,000. He may not have it now but the money won't help him now, it will help him in a few years though.

 

[jd_uk]

Could you be more uninformed?

Educate me... If hair cloning becomes commercially available in say four years time I don't see how it will be affordable to the average person for at least a few years after that. Guys will be paying thousands for their hair transplant's and a lot more for the lab work needed to clone their hairs prior to the hair transplant. Maybe I'm wrong but I'm just not optimistic on this.. Admittedly I haven't spent much time looking into it.

 

[jd_uk]

20 years ago, did they have dutasteride, nizoral shampoo, variable dosages and vehicles of minoxidil, FUE transplants, and black market access to RU 58851, all of which have helped and continue to help people?

Now: The Brotzu lotion is around the corner, Histogen is entering phase III trials which hasn't happened for a hair loss treatment in forever, setipiprant and CB0301 are in trials, and there is the Tsuji treatment being developed.

ETA: What Dante92 needs come ~2020 or so is approximately $10,000 in the bank, maybe $15,000. He may not have it now but the money won't help him now, it will help him in a few years though.

How do you know what the costs will be? How do you know that in 2020 the solution to hair loss will be available?

Brotzu solution? By released do you mean fda tested/approved and comercially available? How can anyone be confident about its efficacy and safety unless it is approved?

The only currently approved treatments which are commercially available are propecia and minoxidil. Minoxidil is frankly not great and propecia does work albeit with risk and/or side effects in many people. I'm someone who wants DHT in my body for various reasons (generally i don't believe in intefering with natural hormones) so that leaves minoxidil which definitely didn't work for me at least. These other black market topicals...nobody really has a clue how systemic they go, how safe they are to others etc etc. I don't feel that male pattern baldness treatments are good in general. FUE is the best there is for people who are good candidates. If you're lucky then it can be great..

 

[jd_uk]

It's not about hair cloning, it's about the possibility to obtain a normal head of hair by combining different treatments.

Right now, multiple FUE megasessions and minoxidil, will bring you to approximately 20% of a full head of hair. If you start off as bald of course.

Hopefully, treatments like Brozu's lotion, Histogen, Replicel, etc. will improve that number.

In a few years, it might be possible to get 50% of your original sensity back. At that point, I would consider myself pretty much cured.

Then you only have to wait for even better treatments.

I understand that you were a terrible candidate for a hair transplant and had a satisfactory result but when I've been to see hair transplant surgeons in the past they categorically told me that i would be a terrible candidate. I.e. my donor hair had miniaturised to the point where I have follicles of only 1's and 2's and I have miniaturisation in all the areas where I hadn't lost hair. On top of that I have the finest hair quality possible (even before hair loss I had the hair quality that a baby has..just with good density and without pattern loss). So because my hair is so fine then it would take a huge amount of grafts to get limited coverage. I was told that it wouldn't be worth it because shock loss would likely cause my donor area to go bald and my recipient site to bald too... basically just not a candidate. When i tried minoxidil many years ago, before my hair properly receded it instantly caused a shed which just never grew back.. My hair loss wasn't even bad before I used it on my hairline -I think minoxidl accelerated it. For years, i had an awkward, unsymmetrical looking hairline which represented the way which I had unevenly applied the minoxidil for 10 months before giving up on it (I know that people won't believe that it made my hair loss worse but I'm fairly convinced - enough so that I never wanted to use it elsewhere). Either way it didn't work for me.

Then there is propecia.. As mentioned, inhibiting DHT internally is simply not for me. Personally, partly due to my own circumstances and partly due to having read about 'upcoming cures' for years, I don't have much hope for future treatments or options. If some topical comes along which maintains and regrows hair via a different mechanism ...altering a protein for example then great. But I think this will take a scientific breakthrough which will be longer than 2020 or even 2025. That would be a 'cure', but it would be tested for years before release. Some people with limited current or future hair loss already have a cure in the form of FUE but i'm talking about people who aren't so fortunate.

 

[Bill Sussman]

It's not about hair cloning, it's about the possibility to obtain a normal head of hair by combining different treatments.

Right now, multiple FUE megasessions and minoxidil, will bring you to approximately 20% of a full head of hair. If you start off as bald of course.

Hopefully, treatments like Brozu's lotion, Histogen, Replicel, etc. will improve that number.

In a few years, it might be possible to get 50% of your original sensity back. At that point, I would consider myself pretty much cured.

Then you only have to wait for even better treatments.

exactly. especially if Shiseido/Replicel is able to maintain and immunize all hair as they aim to do, you can use all of these treatments to restore your hair a considerable amount and maintain, at which point you can go for an aggressive transplant to restore your original hairline with a very solid density. And many of these treatments are not supposed to be too expensive themselves. If you're too far gone, that's where Tsuji comes in.

 

[stachu]

I think i am gonna appreciate balding somehow. Whenever i log in here i just read many posts which actually educating me and making me smarter every time. We are here in different age-ranges and obviously i found many wisdom posts here making me to think about something twice in real life when i only know that someone experienced in here or so.

= But i need to say that. It doesnt matter if you're 165 ,170 or 200 cm it doesnt matter if you're living rich or you're looking " that bad " cause its about the same feeling - Stop comparing each others who has more disadvantages because we all falling to this same bag of bad emotions and sadness. Every complex making us feel the same. Doesnt matter what this complex is. You can be 195cm tall with NW0 full head with good loking face and if you have complex even on your own voice - you will fail to date every woman and actually you're making yourself look worse than a sh*t.

Trust me - I know many friends calling themselves " bad or sh*t" only of some tiny complexes if we compare it to our baldness - They're Full heads more muscular more taller and they're living without any kind of succes. Since i doesnt give a f*** about my complexes - or when im speaking about them f*****g loudly i am much happy and more succesfull with EVERYTHING. Have a good day boys. You need a reality check guys.

 

[Bill Sussman]

well, that just happened

 

[CopeForLife]

No, im gonna cry like you everytime that probably you lost 10 years of looking into mirrors and spending millions without any succes and yeah.

FULLHEAD. Grow the f*** up. At 17 i had NW2.5 status probably i would be NW3 right now. You dont even know what people were talking about me in school or on the streets but i didnt went into emo mode like you did. I was wearing " bald cut " at 18 and heard many shits from people about it. You're just f*****g life looser thats it. I bet you're a tall guy since you're belgian and i would be f*****g tall and bald insteand of getting average on everything. Go f*****g kill yourself.

Fred Dante and CopeForLife

Big 3 - of loosers.

Lol at coper... You aren't even NW3+. You are attention whoring on this site a long time with your NW1-1.5.

I was NW2.5-3 at 18 and didn't give a f*ck as well, later I upgraded to NW3.5 during university, matured and decided to try to date someone. I was ALWAYS thought that I am capable of this just wanted to finish uni and start to "dating".

I was confident enough, didn't even thought that balding is a big flaw but I faced a cruel reality. People DO care about your hair EVEN if you DO NOT.

Not an opposite like slybaldguys tell you that people DO NOT care only you DO it is bullshit.

And this fullhead will teach me or dante how to live with balding spots that occupy half of face on photo.

 

[stachu]

Yeah I wasnt NW2.5 at 17 Plz what the f*** are you talking about " ATTENTION WHORING "

Anyway. Call me FULLHEAD - atleast it would give me placebo if i really go fully bald.

 

[Dench57]

 

[Saurabhaj]

I keep hearing this thing about 'superior treatments just around the corner' but do people genuinely believe it? I read a site promising the end of hair loss by 2020 but all it is is promises. The same promises existed 20 years ago and 10 years ago. IF hair cloning is discovered as successful in 2020 then how quickly will it really be available and how affordable will it be to the average person? I imagine that it will be more like 20 years before anything like that is available to the average person and that is if it is viable. Now if a topical which works some way other than interfering eith hormones come along then that is a different matter but it would take a pretty big scientific discovery.

I think Hair Cloning is too difficult to succeed.
Reason is the Immune reaction AT SKIN is GREATEST in human body.
Even heart Transplant,Kidney Transplant,Bone marrow Transplant,Liver Transplant,Corneal Transplant are all below the Immune Response power of Skin.

After reading the Immunological response of skin in medical book,i would have close the research in a single breath

Even if Hair Follicle cloning may be coming in Autotransplant,i think that will fail.
Playing with Skin Immunity is like dropping Nuclear Bomb on your own home.