"paying For It" By Chester Brown - Tales From Norwood Cemetery

[samantha3333]

A guy here has model looks (minus the hair) and yet he has been on this forum for almost a decade.

Being hot or able to attract women or not is not the reason most of us are here. Hair loss is first and foremost an identity problem.

Often, it's not that you don't look hot, it's that you don't even look normal. Imagine me being a bald 22 year old kid at university.

Fred, I would appreciate the opportunity to post here without having to engage in hideous arguments with certain member(s). It's been established that we don't agree on most things so I suggest we leave each other alone.

 

[jd_uk]

Nope. I have explained this multiple times. Weight of food doesn't matter. It has no impact on satiety. 1 gram of butter compares to 2.25 grams of sugar, not 1 gram of sugar. And neither of them compare to 1 kg of water or to a deep breath of air.


There's literally no science there. Just platitudes. You sound like Rhonda Byrne.

If you want to understand why the people on the biggest loser fail, you have to look at the specifics of their exercise regimen, and their nutritional regimen, and their sleeping patterns. Not "attitude". Again: eating patterns, sleeping patterns, exercise patterns, genetics, not "attitude".

Maybe instead of blaming them for their failure, you should look at their 93% failure rate and conclude that the advice they're being given is sh*t?

People who get lap bands are even lazier than contestants on the biggest loser. They have inferior attitudes: they are going on the diet with no exercise intended. They start off with the same genetics: standard american diet makes them morbidly obese. They eat the same number of calories, but they eat more of what you call "bad fats", they eat more of what you call "high-GI carbs", they do *less* exercise ... and they have better results. This is measured using hormones, weight, etc. Their attitude is actually inferior, they're taking the easiest option. And they have better results.

This thread has now gone off-topic so I will not discuss the issue with you here further. You are welcome to post in the intermittent fasting thread or start a nutrition for general health thread.

You're very confused on this and I think maybe also being deliberately being a bit pedantic. You still choose to ignore the link I posted which backs up what I'm saying, is written by academics as far as I can see and was written recently.

You haven't 'explained' anything regarding whether calories/gram is important. You seem to have this false idea that the body somehow performs a quick calculation about how many calories you have just swallowed and then releases hormones to make you full so that you won't overreat. The reality is that this doesn't happen and it is why it is a good idea to be mindful of how much fat is eaten. The most important equation in weight management is also the simplest and that is that if you consume more calories than you expend then you will gain weight and vice versa.

The reason I said pedantic is that you've quoted part of what I've said and rubbished it without considering the next lines I wrote or why. You call it a platitude; look up the definition of 'platitude' and then explain to me again how it is so. The reason that I state one has to love the activities that they do to achieve long term results is that without doing so they will eventually get bored and quit. I know personally that if I do the same old boring weight routines in the gym or even worse, long distance running then eventually I will get bored and slack. I might do great for 2 months, or until I pick up a slight injury but eventually I will tire of it and find it too hard to get back on the horse. But if if is an activity that I enjoy..different story. Hence I set myself new and differnt goals all the time... I mentioned Georges St Pierre previously and he is a perfect example. Look at his facebook page...always trying new gymnastic movements..always learning new martial art moves..he loves what he does and looks in the same shape as he did the day he retired. Those biggest loser shows are just binges...short lived TV shows...extreme exercise camps, extreme diets ...everything is a binge of some form. And then they go back to real life. Off topic, I once watched it being filmed in New Zealand. I was worried their bungee ropes were going to snap.

Gastric bands? Sorry but I don't even know what your point is there. They help people who mentally have issues with overreating. It's a simple equation..less calories in, less weight gained. You'd struggle to be a good athlete with a gastric band though. For that, you need your food. I think whatever happens, you will stick with what you know but it's a shame because the type of physique (and health) which is achievable to you will be limited. I can see a you who is more athletic looking than the one now, but only if you train like an athlete. Do fasting, or atkins and sure, you may keep some fat off for a while..mabye you can even gain some muscle..but you won't have the physique that you could have had. I'm speaking from a lot of experience here. Actually, now that I think about it, on a stag do a couple of months ago I had this same conversation with an old uni mate. He's big on intermittent fasting now and back in uni he was always testing his urine for ketosis and eating fried beef and low carbs. Myself and another personal trainer on the stag do had by far the most athletic physiques out of everyone and we both eat and train in the way which I have advocated. He however is around 80lbs overweight. He told me that there was no 'scientific evidence' for my my 'small, regular, healthy meals' approach and later that it wouldn't 'fit in with his lifestyle'. Essentially, he was lazy. He wanted to be able to spend less time thinking about what he ate, eat all the fatty tasty foods, just cut the carbs and lose weight. Well, he apparently wasn't very successful with it. I didn't tell him that directly just to be sensitive.

Finally, every single thread on this impact forum gets derailed at least a few times. I wouldn't worry about that.

 

[samantha3333]

I.e. stop taking liberties, lecturing me about women and hair loss and quoting my convo with other members. It's best to just acknowledge that we will never get along and should therefore ignore each other's comments.

 

[jd_uk]

I.e. stop taking liberties, lecturing me about women and hair loss and quoting my convo with other members. It's best to just acknowledge that we will never get along and should therefore ignore each other's comments.

Not getting on with Fred is something which in no way reflects badly on you. He must be one of the biggest bullsh*tters on the internet.

 

[Saurabhaj]

This is my "On This Day" Post of Facebook made two years back...

 

[CaptainForehead]

, I just made a 400% ROE on a debt-funded apartment purchase so I'm glad I didn't follow your advice.

Damn.

How long did you hold on to the apt?

 

[CaptainForehead]

Three years. Leverage is a beautiful thing.

Your first real estate project or have you done this before?

Did you remodel or do any other work on the place?

I would eventually like to get into real-estate, do you have any book recommendations? I can put in the work, so not just looking for idiot guides.

 

[CaptainForehead]

My first, yeah. Did a bit of work when moving in but nothing since then.

To be honest, there was very little skill involved; I mainly lucked into buying in a good area right before a bull market. I don't profess to know the slightest thing about real-estate investing.

Real estate is interesting. One of my (well paid) professors in college made more money from selling his house than savings from his salary for a decade.

There are stocks, but stocks are quite risky and a bit of a gamble.
Bonds, I would also like to explore.

 

[shookwun]

Don't overthink it, is all I can say. Buy index funds for equity exposure, maybe money market funds for debt. I would strongly advice against stock picking or weighting yourself a lot into a certain stock or bond unless you're super interested in the market (you would probably have known by now if you were).

For real-estate look at liquid assets like small-/medium-sized apartments in central areas or adjacent to them. Don't make obvious mistakes like buying on the 1st floor, and you should be good. Buckthorn may have some input here, I think he's done well from real-estate investments.

Most important thing is actually getting out there. A lot of people think idly about investing but never actually get around to doing it.

Most people cannot afford homes on a one man budget. I am starting to notice a lot of people are staying with there parents for longer potions of there life. That or renting sh*t apartments.


My generation is in for a wake up call. ( I am 25) starting to see where everyone is going now with there life. Most don't have anything to show for there schooling. Its a competitive market, and I think a lot of people are going to be in for a rude wake up call of there expectations.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

You haven't 'explained' anything regarding whether calories/gram is important. You seem to have this false idea that the body somehow performs a quick calculation about how many calories you have just swallowed and then releases hormones to make you full so that you won't overreat.

If you insist on being a crackpot on this rudimentary point there is no point in discussing the issue with your further. I will give you one last chance to understand the issue.

According to you, if someone on a high-carb diet needs 2000 calories a day, they'll need ~4,000 calories a day on a high-fat diet, because fat is less satisfying per calorie since you think the intestine magically responds to grams. Do you actually believe that people doing low-carb consume twice as many calories? How do you think people on the low-carb diet lose more weight and get better blood parameters (inflammation, fasting insulin, etc) than people on the Mediterannean diet?

Hint: it's not by eating 4,000 calories a day, as you think they are. It's because they eat fewer calories and are satisfied with those.

Those figures are from a 2008 study in the New England Journal of Medicine, it is available here:
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa0708681#t=abstract

look up the definition of 'platitude'

Be careful of who you are speaking to: I am vastly more educated on this subject than you are.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Don't overthink it, is all I can say. Buy index funds for equity exposure, maybe money market funds for debt. I would strongly advice against stock picking or weighting yourself a lot into a certain stock or bond unless you're super interested in the market (you would probably have known by now if you were).

For real-estate look at liquid assets like small-/medium-sized apartments in central areas or adjacent to them. Don't make obvious mistakes like buying on the 1st floor, and you should be good. Buckthorn may have some input here, I think he's done well from real-estate investments.

Most important thing is actually getting out there. A lot of people think idly about investing but never actually get around to doing it.

I'm going to get a modest windfall in the coming months, sometime around November, and I'll need to decide what to do with the money.

In my 4 years of living in Canberra, I have paid $AU70,000/US$ 53,000 in rent (that's what it costs here), and that money is gone, gone forever. It weighs on me. If I had bought a house, had it appreciate such that I broke even, I would have an additional US$ 53,000 right now, which would be a great thing to have.

In the USA I have signed a 4-month lease in a furnished apartment to get me started, I don't want to think about these issues prior to being there. My contract is only three years. So I have to think about these things. Do I buy a house or flat for the period January 2017 -> August 2019 and flip it at the end, or pay less money on rent and invest the difference in index funds?

In a more authentic world there wouldn't be a benefit to investing in real estate. It happens because the government props up real estate investments. It's artificial. But regardless, it happens. People will keep making artificial profits off real estate investments.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

I.e. stop taking liberties, lecturing me about women and hair loss and quoting my convo with other members. It's best to just acknowledge that we will never get along and should therefore ignore each other's comments.

Just use the ignore list if he's bothering you that much.

 

[CaptainForehead]

I think CaptainForehead makes a decent wage though and maybe has saved up some money? He's not really in the 'confused millennial' category.

Not really, I just make OK wage (but I'm looking for new jobs). I also only have a small amount saved up, 150k euros.

Shook is not that far off with regards to me. I did not do well or make the best choices in my 20s.

 

[CaptainForehead]

I'm going to get a modest windfall in the coming months, sometime around November, and I'll need to decide what to do with the money.

You won a lottery?

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Most people cannot afford homes on a one man budget. I am starting to notice a lot of people are staying with there parents for longer potions of there life. That or renting sh*t apartments.


My generation is in for a wake up call. ( I am 25) starting to see where everyone is going now with there life. Most don't have anything to show for there schooling. Its a competitive market, and I think a lot of people are going to be in for a rude wake up call of there expectations.

For most people, the post-secondary education system is a waste.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

You won a lottery?

No.

 

[Dench57]

I also only have a small amount saved up, 150k euros.

You poor guy

 

[Exodus2011]

You poor guy

thats 168 K american dollars . . . .that is NOT a small amount lol. do you live in beverly hills cap? lol

 

[CaptainForehead]

thats 168 K american dollars . . . .that is NOT a small amount lol. do you live in beverly hills cap? lol

At your age it is not. But at my age (40) it is small (I don't have a separate retirement account). I lost about 80k in bad investments/overconfidence in shorting in the 2008 period.

I don't really have a life, never had a car, I don't eat out, don't have expensive cell/cable contracts, never dated, don't drink, rented small cheap apartments....all my meager earnings pretty much go into savings.

 

[Dench57]

I don't think that's a small amount even for the average 40 year old. I'm sure David can come in and drop some stats up in this b**ch

Also this might be slightly inappropriate/insensitive but you've mentioned before that you never date/have sex. And you watch p**rn. If I had 150k sitting in the bank I would be getting some seriously high class hookers to do some filthy sh*t with me.