Putting Aside Cash For Unborn Child's Hair Plugs

[Medina]

You are talking to me, I presume.
Can I remember everyone that I never said I don't want a kid...

No I was talking out loud

Are you safe from the fire?

 

[Medina]

sorry?

The fire in France, tens of thousands are being evacuated last I heard

 

[Medina]

Oh yes, it's sad. I am not in the South of France, thank you. You are nice

Damn nearly got you. Just kidding glad to hear it pal

 

[Medina]

Damn I thought you were worried about me. How cruel!

I was but I have to act cool in front of the guys

 

[hairblues]

Give it a year or two and you will want children too.

I (thought I) didn't want kids at the age of 25, but experience and self-reflection have made me change my mind.

At a point, you have to think about what's good for you and for the people around you in the long-term.

Not having children will make you feel unfulfilled and meaningless, which in turn will make life hell for you, your family and eventually the rest of the people around you.

Therefore, it is selfish not to want children, not the other way around.

No one wants to be around a selfish miserable purposeless loser who's battling depression and anxiety and can't figure out why he's unhappy.

If you know older childless people, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. My mother has such friends and she's always warned me about not having children.

These people are miserable, all of them, and it takes one very special person to find fulfillment in life without a family.

this is such fear mongering bullshit

If your mothers friends are unhappy it has more to do with they probably wanted kids and did not have them.

I know a lot of men and women who never had kids older than me who are very happy.

It's not something I advocate one way or another but people should do what is right for them without someone like you judging them for their life choices.

Its almost like an ideology for you and judgmental.

 

[hairblues]

No woman (female cousin, mother, two aunts, even grandmothers) is even remotely thinning in my family.

If I have a daughter, it's highly unlikely that she'll lose any hair, and it's highly likely that even her will tell me "Dad, it's just hair, man up!" when she's older.

No women in my Mothers side had hair loss

she got it from her Father even his sisters, my mothers sisters--all fine

My Mother got it from her Father and I got it from her thankfully much milder than she had it.

so you may indeed pass it to your daughter even if your wife is full head.

 

[sunchyme1]

Even if they have, I don't know why I should care, since they are responsible for many of my struggles as well. If I wasn't as mocked by attractive people as I am now, I'd be happier, especially considering I gave up on women a lifetime ago.

But no, he had to make me feel sh*t and humiliate me for something out of my control. He even mispelled "kind sir" as "cancer" while saying goodbye to me, and considering how his gf cackled and elbowed him, he probably said that on purpose. And I should care if he has "struggles"? I truly hope that.

f*****g kick his *** dante

where is your workplace?

i will take a train down there man and f*** that dude up

i am only one hour from you dante. one hour man!!

 

[sunchyme1]

Luckily life strikes them with unexpected tragedies

lol wtf

 

[hairblues]

That is the point. I f*****g hate those postmodernists that have been rammed down my throat in my second year of university.

I've never said this here, but on top of my early balding in 2009, I also had to study that stupid modern literature course.

And it fucked me up very badly, possibly moreso than hair loss itself. One of the psychiatrists I saw at the time even said:

"They shouldn't teach this nonsense to young people."

You're 19, heavily balding, clueless about how you're going to live your life, and some self-righteous destructive intellectuals like Milan Kundera and Thomas Mann tell you in an elaborate way that your life is meaningless and that nothing matters anyway, I didn't need that sh*t, and now I know they were wrong.

Dr. Jordan Peterson has opened my eyes and saved my life a second time after I escaped the hell that is hair loss:

I'm about to drop some bomb on you (and @WMQ ), but you guys have been had. And I had been had too.

Reading postmodernists like Houellebecq certainly has contributed to your existential malaise, your depression and your anxiety. It isn't just the hair loss.

f*** these destructive intellectuals, f*** these destructive thoughts. Yeah, you can't tell I'm passionate about this, and there's a reason.

Do yourselves a favor and stop torturing yourselves.

Fred you are an extremist in your view points.

You are not taking into account that not everyone is like you.

when you grab onto an idea you are all in on that idea.

most people can be more nuanced in this.

I personally never wanted kids..i never had the desire I never felt the 'pang' when my friends and family peers started to have them.

It was never in my nature.

It says more about you and how you view people through a judgmental lens that I am now some lost soul then how I feel about myself or my life.

You want kids--you are planning your life to have kids.

I am not sure why you care what the other guys, who you do not know from a hole in the wall, on HairLossTalk.com are going to procreate or not EXCEPT in my mind I go back to your fear of muslims vs christians and how you are afraid of them over populating us.

that is the ONLY reason I can think (knowing what little i know about you) why it angers you so much that people are choosing not to have kids.

How it will effect your own future lineage if other white people your age are not going to keep growing in future civilization.

Otherwise it makes no sense to me that you are trying to scare people with facing their hypothetical future 80 year old selves having empty lives and regretting not having kids.

LOL meanwhile how many 80 year olds are dropped off in nursing homes and see their families maybe if lucky 1x a month? many...at least in USA its HUGE.

 

[hairblues]

I believe you, you are an exception, and I respect your choice. Seriously.

But people like you are extremely rare, if you choose not to have kids, you'd better be 100% sure because you're going to bitterly regret it if you were wrong.

And lol at your last argument. People always drop these strawmen "But gay adoption is great because some heterosexual couples are terrible towards their children!"

In my family, we respect our grandparents and see them regularly, same for all my friends and my girlfriend's family. Yep, you surround yourself with people who hold similar values to yours.

And yes, it allows worries me that Muslims are reproducing like rabbits while we're like "Nooo, my dreams, me, me, me, children are annoying! Let me live my life free of any responsibility!"

I don't want Muslims taking over our civilization just because all Westerners have f*****g Peter Pan syndrome coupled with narcissism.

Where did I mention gays???

I think the muslim vs christian thing is the most honest and more pragmatic reason than any of your other arguments.

Stick to the truth you will probably get more people to agree with you then this idea everyone is going to be happier if they had kids like its the 1950s Lets Leave it to Beaver..

The race war (dont know what else to call it) --is actually to some extent at least--'real'.

 

[hairblues]

Ah come on, you didn't get that analogy.

Compare:

- It's useless to build a family because some people let their grandparents rot in a home

- It's OK if gay people adopt kids because some heterosexual couples treat their kids badly

Stupid valueless arguments.

You need to compare:

- 80 year old people who have built a large healthy family

and

- 80 year old people who never had kids

Research clearly show that the latter are way more fucked on average in numerous ways (health, mental health, etc.).

That said, I believe you're an exception and that you're most likely going to be fine with your choice.

Thats fair but that again goes to the concept of you want to build your life for how you are going to die as opposed to how you want to live.

See my above comment I edited it since you quoted me..

I think this is silly stuff your point about Muslims vs Euro/americans is more valid and substantive then this idea of who is going to be happier in their f*****g 80s lol

 

[hairblues]

I'm not pursuing happiness and pleasures as I know it's foolish to do so.

Who cares about happiness, happiness makes you stupid, I do what I have to do, I do what works and what has worked for thousands of years and what has allowed to build our civilization.

Where did you see me talk about happiness? I'm talking about fulfillment.

Having children does not make you happier, studies show that you either stay at baseline or actually become unhappier, which makes sense.

This glorification of happiness is pathological. I do plenty of things that don't make me happy, quite the opposite.

- When I'm working (yeah they're actually paying me to do things I wouldn't do otherwise!)
- When I'm working on my scales and skills on my guitar, when I'm working on songs I hate (Radiohead, ugh!) to be fair to my band, etc.
- When I'm sitting through a difficult movie/book (right now reading the Quran, f*** this is tedious!)
- When I'll have children for sure, I'll hate these little monsters and I'll dream about smothering them in their sleep

Why do I do these things, why do I want to do them? Because it's all about delayed gratification and knowing what's good for you in the long-term.

I have a clear goal of where I want to be in life, and f*** happiness. If I don't do the above, I automatically become unhappy, while these activities don't directly make me happy. It took me a long time to realize this.

Not so long ago, I still believed in the NEET lifestyle, but that doesn't work, obviously.

I used happiness in direct opposition of you using the term depressed (i.e. sad) to define old people with no kids...
The opposite word to happy is 'sad'. Depressed people are 'sad'.

therefore if is logical to deduct that if you are telling people to have kids to avoid depression in elderly years that you suggest the opposite having kids would then make them undepressed IE happy.

 

[Dench57]

Perm ban if you convert like your cousin

alhamdulillah

 

[CopeForLife]

Didn't read 6 pages.

For everyone with genetic deformities like baldness or shortness or whatever you need to answer at first:
"Do I want to have a child with my genetical disease on top of another life problems?".

And no, selfish morons, if you will have daughters it won't prevent balding gene to go through generations. It will just postpone till the next generation. In a case of daughters, that will be your grandsons who will inherit balding. Nice genetic gift.

I calculated that chance to have 2 daughters and for them to have daughters is ~2.5%. Give it some thought.

 

[CopeForLife]

f*****g kick his *** dante

where is your workplace?

i will take a train down there man and f*** that dude up

i am only one hour from you dante. one hour man!!

Lol @Dante92 you have a chance to set @sunchyme1 on your offender. UNLEASH THE BALD BEAST

Where did I mention gays???

I think the muslim vs christian thing is the most honest and more pragmatic reason than any of your other arguments.

Stick to the truth you will probably get more people to agree with you then this idea everyone is going to be happier if they had kids like its the 1950s Lets Leave it to Beaver..

The race war (dont know what else to call it) --is actually to some extent at least--'real'.

I always lol @ ovulation race. Stupid bullshit. Quantity is NEVER over quality.

It's like to call eagles to be inferior to rats because, obviously, rats reproduce much more rapidly than eagles. But it's rats who hunted by eagles, not vice versa. Who cares about numbers.

Another question is moral degeneration that corrupts West world nowadays. But you can't solve this by spitting more and more innocent babies. That' won't solve a problem but will make it worse instead.

And no, muslims are not related to the modern moral decadence.

 

[Saurabhaj]

Fred you are an extremist in your view points.

You are not taking into account that not everyone is like you.

when you grab onto an idea you are all in on that idea.

most people can be more nuanced in this.

I personally never wanted kids..i never had the desire I never felt the 'pang' when my friends and family peers started to have them.

It was never in my nature.

It says more about you and how you view people through a judgmental lens that I am now some lost soul then how I feel about myself or my life.

You want kids--you are planning your life to have kids.

I am not sure why you care what the other guys, who you do not know from a hole in the wall, on HairLossTalk.com are going to procreate or not EXCEPT in my mind I go back to your fear of muslims vs christians and how you are afraid of them over populating us.

that is the ONLY reason I can think (knowing what little i know about you) why it angers you so much that people are choosing not to have kids.

How it will effect your own future lineage if other white people your age are not going to keep growing in future civilization.

Otherwise it makes no sense to me that you are trying to scare people with facing their hypothetical future 80 year old selves having empty lives and regretting not having kids.

LOL meanwhile how many 80 year olds are dropped off in nursing homes and see their families maybe if lucky 1x a month? many...at least in USA its HUGE.

Don't fight with me because i don't remember actual medical data.
Few americans and british have fought with me like idiots on Time facebook page because they didn't wanted children and went into insane mode.

There is high risk of reproductive cancer in nulliparous women by the way.

Just small fact ...
not an argument point

 

[hairblues]

Don't fight with me because i don't remember actual medical data.
Few americans and british have fought with me like idiots on Time facebook page because they didn't wanted children and went into insane mode.

There is high risk of reproductive cancer in nulliparous women by the way.

Just small fact ...
not an argument point

Higher risk is not equal to a high risk.

I am gong to make a guess, you probably get into fights not for the actual facts about the cancer risk but your interpretation of it and how you use that interpretation in your debates with women who have decided to not have children.

which is understandable that they probably wind up telling you to f*** off or something like this

 

[CopeForLife]

Higher risk is not equal to a high risk.

I am gong to make a guess, you probably get into fights not for the actual facts about the cancer risk but your interpretation of it and how you use that interpretation in your debates with women who have decided to not have children.

which is understandable that they probably wind up telling you to f*** off or something like this

Imagined a typical Indian who intervenes into another women's Facebook Timeline and throwing "facts" here and there.

 

[EvilLocks]

@WhitePolarBear we live in 2017, there is no shame in deciding to not have children. Your values and morals seem to belong in the past. There are many reasons people decide to not have children, and I personally believe it's one of the most selfless things you can do. Way too many people who are not fitted to be parents pop out one kid after the other, do you really think they should continue doing so just to 'fit in' and not be ostracized by people with children?
As for myself I do want children, but at the same time I'm terrified of passing not only my horrible baldness gene but my anxiety ridden personality type as well. It would be a horrid thing to do to a child. Sure, I'd love a cute little baby to cuddle up to and love, but am I really fitted to be a parent? Sometimes I doubt it.

 

[Endmymisery]

Plus, if you think about it, being bald and/or ugly does not make you bullet proof on life. We are still going to lose our loved ones and have cancer or stuff like that ! It reminds me when people tell me "well it is not that Bad, you could have had cancer"... Yeah... Indeed... And the fact I am balding does not mean I will never have one! All those things just does not compare.

I would rather have cancer than hairloss