" Sorry, I'm Not Into Bald Guys. You Should Try Approaching A Bald Woman."

[nameless]

It's really annoying BS that men are not allowed to compensate.

Would you, or most guys you know, leave a woman or lose respect for a woman because she had one or two plastic surgeries such as a nose job, breast implants, etc?

No.

It's also completely arbitrary what's ok and what isn't. We don't bat an eye if someone has laser eye surgery or gets braces. For most people that doesn't even count as cosmetic surgery.

Hair transplant?

"vanity ! wasteful ! be more confident !"

I think that women snicker about men doing any cosmetic improvements because they're brainwashed to believe that women's looks are important but men's looks are unimportant. It's all bullshit. Women will snicker at you for wanting hair and then in her next breath she'll swoon over the hair-privileged attractive man standing next to you.

But the only situation I don't want to be caught in is wearing a hairpiece. If I could surgically or medically recover a full head of hair that looks good I don't care if women snicker or not. I'll still use the attractiveness to sleep with half of them and I'll be doing a lot of laughing myself.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

I think that women snicker about men doing any cosmetic improvements because they're brainwashed to believe that women's looks are important but men's looks are unimportant. It's all bullshit. Women will snicker at you for wanting hair and then in her next breath she'll swoon over the hair-privileged attractive man standing next to you.

Yes, it's part of mainstream feminist canon, the idea that women are judged on their looks and men are not.

There is a kernel of truth to that, but I think a large part of it is that many men are oblivious to the importance of looks.

I actually saw a feminist friend unwittingly post an cartoon discussing this as an argument for institutional sexism. Why are women told to buy more makeup (or whatever it was) and men are told to be more confident? It was implied that this is an unfair advantage for men, but I think that's incorrect, in my opinion.

Then again women are also told fiction. IMO, makeup, clothes, and perfume make a very marginal difference. I also don't care if a woman has short or long hair, or if she wears glasses. Weight loss, weightlifting, clear skin, and certain cosmetic procedures make a much larger difference.

 

[Roberto_72]

I actually saw a feminist friend unwittingly post an cartoon discussing this as an argument for institutional sexism. Why are women told to buy more makeup (or whatever it was) and men are told to be more confident? It was implied that this is an unfair advantage for men, but I think that's incorrect, in my opinion.

I agree with you. If anything, it is a disadvantage for men. You can buy makeup at the supermarket. In order to be confident, you have to make a psychological effort and we all know the mind does not bend as easily as mascara.

 

[F2005]

Lots of these workplace conduct comments are very interesting. I work mostly in an office environment (white collar) but I do go over to the warehouse (blue collar) a few times throughout the day. I really never had a problem relating to people in either environment because I've got aspects of both blue collar and white collar in me. I certainly do not look like a white collar guy since I keep my hair long (despite the gaping temple recession and thinning on top), have 2 hoop earrings in my left ear, and am a big guy who looks like he lifts weights. Plus, I can have a vulgar/street way of talking and a New York accent, so I think all of that appeals to the blue collar guys.

Yet I also have a college degree and can adapt to an office environment as well. I've always been well-spoken, and considerate and respectful of others so that bodes well for an office environment. A person who I admire very much said "a person can be many things" and I pride myself on trying to be that person.

But I do agree that there will be assholes in a work environment that will goof on people. It's not too bad where I work now but at my old job, there was a higher-up who would break everyone's chops, and mercilessly went after this one guy. He actually bothered me about my long hair and my earrings. It didn't bother me too much but after he wouldn't let up, I went right back at him and said he reminded me of Woody Allen minus a shower. Thankfully it all got ironed out within like a half a day (especially since my immediate boss couldn't stand the guy). But the point of this paragraph is that I was ultimately not that upset because having long hair and earrings (and whatever that could connotate to anyone) was something that I loved and was not ashamed of at all. Yet if my hair loss (which was not noticeable at the time, temple recession but no thinning and I hadn't noticed it yet) was the butt of a workplace joke, I would surely be deeply hurt and angry. Hair loss is something that nobody is proud of and making fun of it can cut a person deeply.

 

[F2005]

I actually saw a feminist friend unwittingly post an cartoon discussing this as an argument for institutional sexism. Why are women told to buy more makeup (or whatever it was) and men are told to be more confident? It was implied that this is an unfair advantage for men, but I think that's incorrect, in my opinion.

Then again women are also told fiction. IMO, makeup, clothes, and perfume make a very marginal difference. I also don't care if a woman has short or long hair, or if she wears glasses. Weight loss, weightlifting, clear skin, and certain cosmetic procedures make a much larger difference.

You brought up excellent points in that first paragraph. It reminds of when a woman with hair loss was on Dr. Phil. Her hair loss wasn't even that noticeable yet she was in tears and the crowd totally empathized with her. Yet on cable news once, when a baldness cure was brought up, they showed footage from Seinfeld of Elaine throwing George's toupee out the window and him running after it like a complete loser. The double standard is absolutely staggering, and it should just not be this way.

And you're correct in the second paragraph as well. Makeup can absolutely make a HUGE difference. I've seen women (some X's) with and without makeup and the difference can be absolutely staggering. This even applies to young women as well. Guys do not have this advantage so that is why we especially need to retain all the important parts of our natural attractiveness.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Jason Alexander, who played George Costanza, got a hair transplant in real life.

 

[EvilLocks]

He's wearing a hair piece David.

Poor guy.

 

[That Guy]

The double standard is absolutely staggering, and it should just not be this way.

This is going to make me sound like one of those Tumblr SJW pricks, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.

This double standard is a remnant of the "patriarchal" society that feminists are always screaming about even though we don't live in one anymore

Historically, most marriages were arranged and existed to create alliances between families. The concept of marrying for love is a modern concept. Back in ye olde days, families with a daughter to marry off saw her as a means to boost their own status. So, if your daughter was attractive, she'd be easier to marry off to a man who comes from a well-off family, with a good job etc. He himself may not be good looking and your daughter probably doesn't feel attracted to him, but who gives a sh*t what she thinks - this is a business deal and you need grandchildren, damn it. Since men were the disposable, working class, being a good, child-bearing housewife was seen as a requirement of every woman. Being a hard worker was expected of every man outside of the aristocracy. Within this paradigm, If you had a son to marry off, truly any woman will do. The only thing that makes one stand out amongst the other is her looks and you will have a much easier time convincing that family that their beautiful daughter should marry your son if he has wealth, status and strong future prospects. So it wasn't uncommon back then to see ugly-*** aristocrats with the hottest women. This still exists today in the fact that some women, gold diggers, use their looks to marry into high status.

The problem is, the paradigm of old is not really compatible with modern society. So you have all these average joes convinced that they'll get with 9s and 10s if they're just "confident" enough. In a time where women have the same rights as men and can make their own fortunes, the man's status and wealth do not hold as much sway.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

He's wearing a hair piece David.

OK, that's a high-quality hair piece lol:

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Poor guy.

Not really, it helped his career.

He probably wouldn't have had the George Costanza role with a full head.

 

[scorpiolove]

Amber rose is a bald woman and I'd throw the D on her anytime she wants. lol(call me)
Even Ye hit that at one time in his life,ye is bald by the way and he got Kim.
He also dated Pam Anderson.
I dare say, If it wasn't for the money and fame, none of these chicks would have even considered him dating material. In my experience, women usually ask a guy what his occupation is, after they ask his name, is it just me or is there something wrong with that?

 

[Joan]

Amber Rose is a pretty girl for sure. She's not bald, though. She buzzes her hair. She's fortunate to have a nicely shaped head too. I doubt even a shiny, bald head would make her unattractive.

 

[nameless]

Not really, it helped his career.

He probably wouldn't have had the George Costanza role with a full head.

Yea he got the role of a bald schmoe.

 

[nameless]

Amber rose is a bald woman and I'd throw the D on her anytime she wants. lol(call me)
Even Ye hit that at one time in his life,ye is bald by the way and he got Kim.
He also dated Pam Anderson.
I dare say, If it wasn't for the money and fame, none of these chicks would have even considered him dating material. In my experience, women usually ask a guy what his occupation is, after they ask his name, is it just me or is there something wrong with that?

She's too bulky for me.

 

[EvilLocks]

Amber Rose is a pretty girl for sure. She's not bald, though. She buzzes her hair. She's fortunate to have a nicely shaped head too. I doubt even a shiny, bald head would make her unattractive.

Precisely. There is a world of a difference between shaved by choice and bald. I don't think she'd still be attractive sporting a NW7 though, but that's just my opinion.

 

[Funkymonk1]

Lots of coping here, and a clear lack of life experience and understanding how human relationships work.

Showing up early, leaving late, making intelligent comments, contributing, remembering people? You think that's going to make a difference?

It won't. People don't give a sh*t about those, they give a sh*t about whether they like you or not, and that is genetically determined.

You're either compatible with certain people or you're not. I can see that at my workplace right now.

I work half of the time with one team, half of the time with another. I behave exactly the same with both teams.

You know, trying to be nice, making intelligent comments as you say, doing my part.

Yet one team looks at me like I'm dirt, and the other (that I've been working with for only a month) enjoys my presence and treats me well. We immediately got along.

Yet I'm the same person to both teams? How do you explain the difference in treatment? Genetic compatibility, and it's no surprise here.

One team is made of people who've never been to university, they don't know much about IT and spend their time smoking, betting on sports (yes) and gossiping.

The other team? They have a background that's similar to mine, and they usually focus on their work instead of talking about how the new guy looks like a pervert. I get them, and they get me.

You can have a pitch-perfect behavior and be the best man you can be around some people, and they'll still think you're a moron. It happens all the time, people who are nice, trying to do their best at their workplace, yet get next to nothing in return, just contempt.

As I often say, life is about finding people who are on your team (genetically compatible with you). And that's what I'm trying to do, people I don't get along with, nothing is going to change their mind.

Just a thought; Have you considered that the team who "treats you like dirt" can pick up on negative vibes and body language that you're giving out? I know you say that you behave the same with both teams but you clearly look down your nose at one of the teams for their (in your words) "lack of education, smoking, gossiping ect". You may not even realise that you're giving out these negative signals but very few people are going to be friendly with you if they sense that don't like them or that you think you're above them. I seriously doubt that a whole group of people is going to treat you that way for no reason.
It's true that ther's always going to be people who you click with more then others but there are people who have the ability to adapt and connect with almost everyone. This is a skill only a few people have though.

 

[nameless]

Why do all threads turn into "Psychoanalyze Fred" threads?

Can this please stop?

Can we all please stay on topic or I'm going to complain to the mods that some of the posters habitually derail threads and turn them all into "Attack Fred" threads. Those of you who just come here to attack Fred should start one "Attack Fred" thread and only post your attacks in that one thread. Some of us want to debate the merits of the original subject of each thread without having to go through all of this "Attack Fred" cr@p.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Precisely. There is a world of a difference between shaved by choice and bald. I don't think she'd still be attractive sporting a NW7 though, but that's just my opinion.

She'd still be attractive.

 

[jd_uk]

Lol that's not how human mating works.

"Compete for a woman".

As if any man could seduce any woman if he just behaves "alpha" enough.

In the end, women decide, and they'll just pick the guy who is their type and who doesn't make her feel uncomfortable (by trying too hard to impress her for example).

Seduction does not exist.

I don't approach women and I don't get rejected, yet I've had sex with 3 different women from Wednesday to Saturday.

Success rate: 100%.

Just lol at trying with women.

Begging for a chance at the bar, so alpha!

Also, here's what gives away that you have little experience with women:

You actually think getting women is actually something hard, a challenge, that only the true alpha male who has cultivated his body and mind enough can overcome.

Any experienced guy who is successful with women will tell you that it's not.

Nice try, alpha warrior.

I was going to reply to this on Saturday night before I went out but then saw another post of yours where you apparently state that even people liking you as friends is 'genetic'. Then, as usual, I thought, 'why am I even bothering'..this guy has such extreme views and spends so long on here it can't be anything other than the symptoms of a mental illness. You wouldn't believe anything else which hasn't personally happened to you, regardless of any evidence to the contrary. I think you've set your whole life up based on the internet and it is your crutch; for daily life, for what you call self 'therapy' (even though it is the worst thing for you and probably makes any genuine therapy pointless) and for dating. Even this post, reading it, I thought 'hang on, he's literally copied what shookwun said the other day'. I'm referring to the 'you can't get women because you think it is something hard' line. I actually agreed with that post by shookwun, for a change, but largely from the point of view that certain guys on here place way too much importance on what women think, including yourself. Having said that, I do just fine with women...in real life situations too believe it or not.

My point regarding competing is that in any relationship, there will be times when your woman is around other guys that might tempt her...in work, on nights out, through friends etc etc. In life, we always have competition, like it or not. Now if you are a guy who relies so much on the internet to get women (as shookwun also later alluded to) and if you are SO scared of rejection, like you state, then there will be times in real life that you lose out to other guys, either if it is just a girl that you like who may have been interested if you had the balls to approach her, or if it is your woman who is both attracted to another guy and senses that he has other alpha qualities which you don't. That is just a fact i'm not even going to argue about. Like it or not, believe me or don't believe me. Most guys who genuinely are successful with women will know what i'm talking about. You, with your 'its only looks' mantra will not, but I appreciate that you have no way to understand it. A woman WILL be aware of your behaviour, she will be aware of whether her guy acts dominantly or submissively, she will be aware if he is too sensitive or even cowardly and she will lose attraction for those certain types of non alpha qualities. You may or may not have your success with tinder or plenty of fish, i have my own opinions on the quality of women in those sites compared to the quality of women it is possible to get day to day if you do have things together. Looks matter, but so does everything else. You'll disagree, but I really don't care... your answers are weak to most things. That picture i posted of Mike tindel (the rugby player with the bald head and bent nose) ...'celebrity, proves nothing', despite the fact that she would have been surrounded by 'good looking' guys whenever she wanted. "No bald guys are apparently ever genuinely happy or have great relationships' because they are not on this site personally telling you so. Why the hell would they bother coming here to say it!?!? It would be funny if it weren't so sad that this is how you actually think. "Women aren't attracted to muscles because you can't genetically fool them"; well, think you'll find they do like it...

Everything you say is weak, your arguments constantly fall short and you spend such unbelievable amounts of time on here spouting things which are so untrue and sometimes so spiteful that personally if it had been up to me would have had you banned a long time ago; for everyone's benefit, including your own. Alas, I'm not a moderator.

I do wonder what you will do in future. You say you have success now and are happy, I struggle to believe it given the crazy amount of time you spend here and the way obsessive nature of your posts. But then in the future, lets imagine in ten years time you are single and if say your supposed 'looks' fade, then your whole online dating strategy crumbles, you will have next to no real life experience with approaching and meeting women normally, an absolute fear of rejection and no social skills to do anything about it with. It all seems very sad to me. But then I suppose you don't believe in 'social skills', because it is all just genetic. Suit yourself.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

I was going to reply to this on Saturday night before I went out but then saw another post of yours where you apparently state that even people liking you as friends is 'genetic'. Then, as usual, I thought, 'why am I even bothering'..this guy has such extreme views and spends so long on here it can't be anything other than the symptoms of a mental illness. You wouldn't believe anything else which hasn't personally happened to you, regardless of any evidence to the contrary. I think you've set your whole life up based on the internet and it is your crutch; for daily life, for what you call self 'therapy' (even though it is the worst thing for you and probably makes any genuine therapy pointless) and for dating. Even this post, reading it, I thought 'hang on, he's literally copied what shookwun said the other day'. I'm referring to the 'you can't get women because you think it is something hard' line. I actually agreed with that post by shookwun, for a change, but largely from the point of view that certain guys on here place way too much importance on what women think, including yourself. Having said that, I do just fine with women...in real life situations too believe it or not.

My point regarding competing is that in any relationship, there will be times when your woman is around other guys that might tempt her...in work, on nights out, through friends etc etc. In life, we always have competition, like it or not. Now if you are a guy who relies so much on the internet to get women (as shookwun also later alluded to) and if you are SO scared of rejection, like you state, then there will be times in real life that you lose out to other guys, either if it is just a girl that you like who may have been interested if you had the balls to approach her, or if it is your woman who is both attracted to another guy and senses that he has other alpha qualities which you don't. That is just a fact i'm not even going to argue about. Like it or not, believe me or don't believe me. Most guys who genuinely are successful with women will know what i'm talking about. You, with your 'its only looks' mantra will not, but I appreciate that you have no way to understand it. A woman WILL be aware of your behaviour, she will be aware of whether her guy acts dominantly or submissively, she will be aware if he is too sensitive or even cowardly and she will lose attraction for those certain types of non alpha qualities. You may or may not have your success with tinder or plenty of fish, i have my own opinions on the quality of women in those sites compared to the quality of women it is possible to get day to day if you do have things together. Looks matter, but so does everything else. You'll disagree, but I really don't care... your answers are weak to most things. That picture i posted of Mike tindel (the rugby player with the bald head and bent nose) ...'celebrity, proves nothing', despite the fact that she would have been surrounded by 'good looking' guys whenever she wanted. "No bald guys are apparently ever genuinely happy or have great relationships' because they are not on this site personally telling you so. Why the hell would they bother coming here to say it!?!? It would be funny if it weren't so sad that this is how you actually think. "Women aren't attracted to muscles because you can't genetically fool them"; well, think you'll find they do like it...

Everything you say is weak, your arguments constantly fall short and you spend such unbelievable amounts of time on here spouting things which are so untrue and sometimes so spiteful that personally if it had been up to me would have had you banned a long time ago; for everyone's benefit, including your own. Alas, I'm not a moderator.

I do wonder what you will do in future. You say you have success now and are happy, I struggle to believe it given the crazy amount of time you spend here and the way obsessive nature of your posts. But then in the future, lets imagine in ten years time you are single and if say your supposed 'looks' fade, then your whole online dating strategy crumbles, you will have next to no real life experience with approaching and meeting women normally, an absolute fear of rejection and no social skills to do anything about it with. It all seems very sad to me. But then I suppose you don't believe in 'social skills', because it is all just genetic. Suit yourself.

""Women aren't attracted to muscles because you can't genetically fool them";"

Yet they'll like a guy better if he loses body fat, gets a hair transplant, gets gynecomaestia surgery should he need it, gets dental braces and teeth whitening should he need it, gets laser eye surgery should he need it,

or for that matter if he's been fed better childhood nutrition that made him 2 or 3 inches taller and given him better bone structure, and had better embryonic nutrition that gave him a more symmetric face.

The people on this board who talk about "genetics" are by and large those who have never taken let alone understood a college-level science course and have zero understanding of what genetics is. Worse than that, they actually have an active misunderstanding of what genetics is.