Tinder 10/10 Male Experiment

EvilLocks

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You are insane man :p.

As for the reasons of my relative success with women:

Numbers game (almost only online), 6'3, dreamy blue eyes, arrogant charismatic smile apparently, and head shape + traits that go well with the bald look.

And of course tight game brah!

You do have a nice smile and eyes, Fred. And never underestimate the importance of height - tall men "always" attract more women.
 

pjhair

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You do have a nice smile and eyes, Fred. And never underestimate the importance of height - tall men "always" attract more women.

Is that true for every women though EvilLocks? I can actually think of three women in my personal life that are 10/10. Stunningly beautiful. One of them is actually a model. I rank two of them between top 3 most beautiful women I have personally known. For some reason, I always see them dating guys between 5'8 to 5'10. These women themselves are between 5'4 to 5'7.
 

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Those women were approached by tall men with good faces too. They still dated guys of average height with good faces. So height wasn't an advantage when it came to those women. That is not to say that it isn't an advantage for majority of women. It definitely is. Only an idiot will deny it.
 

I.D WALKER

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I also prefer taller men.
I find it a more convenient to eliminate competition that is easier to spot coming. -)
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EvilLocks

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Is that true for every women though EvilLocks?

Of course not, there are exceptions to every rule. I think that as long as you're average to above average height as a man, you're good... But let's not deny the fact that women ARE attracted to height in men.
 

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You do have a nice smile and eyes, Fred. And never underestimate the importance of height - tall men "always" attract more women.

I don't know if tall men always attract more women. I would side with those who put the greatest emphasis on face. Being fat--no matter how tall a guy is or how handsome his face is--would always turn me off. And since I live in a large, family neighborhood and attend school functions, I have to agree with SadVegeta about short women having sons who are of average or below-average height. I see it a lot. You can't predict which parent's genes your child will inherit.
 

FWIW

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Society is disgusting

I hope big asteroid hits earth and all nukes blow off. Wanna see the discussion about this topic then.
 

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Of course not, there are exceptions to every rule. I think that as long as you're average to above average height as a man, you're good... But let's not deny the fact that women ARE attracted to height in men.

I often assume women like height the way men like breasts.

Might be even more so.
 

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SadVegeta, if it weren't for your strong desire to attract pretty girls, would you still be planning cosmetic procedures? I ask you this question as a woman who has had several procedures herself and hopefully will be able to have more in the future and also as a mother to two sons, one probably just a couple years older than you who has been balding since he turned 18, and who I doubt has ever dated (he's away at college). He doesn't seem to be obsessed with having random sex with hot women (not judging anyone here for that--I was once young too), but I'm wondering if he'd be like some of you here if he were. For me, cosmetic procedures were (and will be) for my self-esteem alone. I have a husband who loves me just how I am, an ex-husband who was complimentary as well as all the other guys with whom I had relationships, except one ex-BF. I am all for cosmetic surgery/procedures as long as they are done solely for ourselves and with realistic expectations. Also, it sounds like you're doing your homework. Just make sure you have enough money (it sounds like you do) to have corrective surgery if you're botched in some way. I've mentioned I'm a member of RealSelf, and there are some horror stories there.
 

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I've posted a few times about the disadvantages of being short (168cm ~5'6") so I won't repeat myself for too long.

Some women don't care. Most women do. Think you have it bad for being bald? Being short is kind of the same. I've been discriminated against by both men and women. Had some women flat out reject me despite me being the same height as they are or even slightly taller.

My only way to compensate is working out so I don't add "scrawny" to the mix, having a good job and social status and making whoever mocks me feel like a mental midget with either a witty retort or simply staring them down. Usually works fine as most Swiss people are pussies and not confrontational in the least so they'll back off at the slightest hint of aggression - and that's coming from someone who doesn't look intimidating at all. Trying to feign as if it doesn't affect you just doesn't work, in my experience.

What I do know is if the growth curve of my future children is too low, they'll be getting growth hormone for sure. I'm perfectly fine in my own skin, mind you, but the lifelong discrimination kind of gets to you at times.
 

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I don't know if tall men always attract more women.

I know, that's why I said "always". Like I said above there are exceptions to every rule. But I do believe tall men have the upper hand when it comes to dating, although this doesn't mean that shorter men won't attract women.
 

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I often assume women like height the way men like breasts.

Might be even more so.

Height was never a strong attraction for me. I think men put more emphasis on a woman having big breasts than women put on height. Like EvilLocks said, at least average height is fine. If I were single, even a little below average would be ok for me, but I'm barely 5'3", so just about every guy would be taller than I am! Maybe women in your age bracket think differently. Height didn't matter to me even when I was young.
 

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I've posted a few times about the disadvantages of being short (168cm ~5'6") so I won't repeat myself for too long.

Some women don't care. Most women do. Think you have it bad for being bald? Being short is kind of the same. I've been discriminated against by both men and women. Had some women flat out reject me despite me being the same height as they are or even slightly taller.

My only way to compensate is working out so I don't add "scrawny" to the mix, having a good job and social status and making whoever mocks me feel like a mental midget with either a witty retort or simply staring them down. Usually works fine as most Swiss people are pussies and not confrontational in the least so they'll back off at the slightest hint of aggression - and that's coming from someone who doesn't look intimidating at all. Trying to feign as if it doesn't affect you just doesn't work, in my experience.

What I do know is if the growth curve of my future children is too low, they'll be getting growth hormone for sure. I'm perfectly fine in my own skin, mind you, but the lifelong discrimination kind of gets to you at times.

Look into elevator shoes. That will bump you by 2-3 inches.
 

EvilLocks

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Look into elevator shoes. That will bump you by 2-3 inches.

Or height insoles, you can get them off of ebay and put them into your regular shoes. I have used them before because I'm only 5'5 and a half, and I like to be taller.
 

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Height was never a strong attraction for me. I think men put more emphasis on a woman having big breasts than women put on height. Like EvilLocks said, at least average height if fine. If I were single, even a little below average would be ok for me, but I'm barely 5'3", so just about every guy would be taller than I am! Maybe women in your age bracket think differently. Height didn't matter to me even when I was young.

Nice breasts, up to a point, have a significant effect on men. But yet we still see lots of women with small boobs do very well, so it's not a veto-like effect.
 

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I've posted a few times about the disadvantages of being short (168cm ~5'6") so I won't repeat myself for too long.

Some women don't care. Most women do. Think you have it bad for being bald? Being short is kind of the same. I've been discriminated against by both men and women. Had some women flat out reject me despite me being the same height as they are or even slightly taller.

My only way to compensate is working out so I don't add "scrawny" to the mix, having a good job and social status and making whoever mocks me feel like a mental midget with either a witty retort or simply staring them down. Usually works fine as most Swiss people are pussies and not confrontational in the least so they'll back off at the slightest hint of aggression - and that's coming from someone who doesn't look intimidating at all. Trying to feign as if it doesn't affect you just doesn't work, in my experience.

What I do know is if the growth curve of my future children is too low, they'll be getting growth hormone for sure. I'm perfectly fine in my own skin, mind you, but the lifelong discrimination kind of gets to you at times.


they only care if you're unattractive facially, and physically.


This manlet at my gym is about 5'6, maybe 5'7 if he wears his air force ones with lifts :laugh:

Chicks are always garnering his attention, but then again I don't want to mistaken friendliness for someone whos sticking their dick in them.

They could very well just be being nice.


A good body is so important, but Im not going to get into a debate because alot of dad bods will get hurt in the process. However, every girl I meet as soon as I pull my shirt off they are like 'wow'... it's surreal for them. Like catnip, and candy...it tastes good for them but doesn't last long. Wandering hands, and constantly touching my muscles.... ALL THE TIME. Trust me dude! getting into reasonable shape is the best thing to make yourself even more sexy and appeal able. height doesn't make someone horny... it doesn't. Let's get over this. When you're with a women the only thing that matters is her body in bed for sex, and her face for kissing. They think no differently.

I don't expect anyone to get into the shape im in, but getting into shape with a flat stomach does wonders.
 

Giiizmo

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they only care if you're unattractive facially, and physically.


This manlet at my gym is about 5'6, maybe 5'7 if he wears his air force ones with lifts :laugh:

Chicks are always garnering his attention, but then again I don't want to mistaken friendliness for someone whos sticking their dick in them.

They could very well just be being nice.


A good body is so important, but Im not going to get into a debate because alot of dad bods will get hurt in the process. However, every girl I meet as soon as I pull my shirt off they are like 'wow'... it's surreal for them. Like catnip, and candy...it tastes good for them but doesn't last long. Wandering hands, and constantly touching my muscles.... ALL THE TIME. Trust me dude! getting into reasonable shape is the best thing to make yourself even more sexy and appeal able. height doesn't make someone horny... it doesn't. Let's get over this. When you're with a women the only thing that matters is her body in bed for sex, and her face for kissing. They think no differently.

I don't expect anyone to get into the shape im in, but getting into shape with a flat stomach does wonders.

But I am in shape, that's my point. Not bulky but I do have my six-pack, wide shoulders and a strong back - lacking a bit in the arms dept. but I find exercising arms boring. I have no issues having girls be friendly towards me but when it comes to a relationship or just getting physical, a lot of them have to tick the "(much) taller than me" box.

Truth be told, the younger they are, the more of an issue height is. For women in their high 20s or early/mid 30s, I've found that a flat stomach is almost as important.
 

FWIW

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they only care if you're unattractive facially, and physically.


This manlet at my gym is about 5'6, maybe 5'7 if he wears his air force ones with lifts :laugh:

Chicks are always garnering his attention, but then again I don't want to mistaken friendliness for someone whos sticking their dick in them.

They could very well just be being nice.


A good body is so important, but Im not going to get into a debate because alot of dad bods will get hurt in the process. However, every girl I meet as soon as I pull my shirt off they are like 'wow'... it's surreal for them. Like catnip, and candy...it tastes good for them but doesn't last long. Wandering hands, and constantly touching my muscles.... ALL THE TIME. Trust me dude! getting into reasonable shape is the best thing to make yourself even more sexy and appeal able. height doesn't make someone horny... it doesn't. Let's get over this. When you're with a women the only thing that matters is her body in bed for sex, and her face for kissing. They think no differently.

I don't expect anyone to get into the shape im in, but getting into shape with a flat stomach does wonders.


Shook you somewhere stated you are 5'1 ? That was a typo I guess? Anyway, show us your body please. Wanna see what should be the goal.
 

shookwun

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Go look in my tell story section I think I posted a picture after my transplant, and you can see my back, and arm in the mirror some what. I don't have anything on hand, but that's not the point.

Also, I only took tren onc Sadvegeta. I just stay on low doses of test most the time... I don't blast huge amounts.

Don't need anything special, just be in shape.

Im about 5'10 barefoot.

GIIZMO, so a lot of women your saying look at you as a platonic male and not someone they can settle down with. Is that how you feel? perhaps you are to timid, and don't reveal your intentions. It's important to let a women know subtly what you want from the beginning.

I used to put myself in that zone where I wasn't getting laid, but becoming friends. It backfired on me recently with a women that wanted me back in the day, but I showed otherwise. When I flew back into town after after two years, we met up. Same girl I used to go to music festivals, and parties with but never got intimate with. At one point she liked me, and even tried to kiss me back in the day, but I never bulged. I lacked a lot of self-esteem, and hardly made moves, but still managed with some. Anyhow, we met up... went to a drive in, had a few drinks... I tried making a move and she gave me the cheek, and was shocked. She had a boyfriend but didn't tell me because she didn't look at me that way, because their was no sign from the beginning. She was shocked, and could hardly make a proper sentence, and never spilled the beans. But I knew, She didn't know that's what I wanted... I deceived her, then out of no where come back all pumped and unlash my true intentions. it's selfish and a waste of time.
 
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