Under 25 And Balding, What Cures Are You Looking Forward To?

[sunchyme1]

xD

thats me in 10 years mate

 

[H]

Then, when something like Follica is faced with being a reality before too long, and by all current professional trials and super-successful DIY guys, there is no reason to believe that a worst-case scenario isn't something like a diffuse NW1-2.

I understand where you are coming from with some of the forum members bitching especially when they haven't tried anything and are just bitching for the sake of it but just curious would you be content with a severely diffuse 1 or 2 Norwood? As i read your post about the haircut i am guessing you have most of your hair still intact but you do still have this balding anxiety we all have otherwise you wouldn't be here am I correct in a sense? I've said this before but I think this demonstrates it in my opinion hair loss is black and white all or nothing kind of deal being close to bald produces the same effects and just starting to thin out the self consciousness is all the same if your not worried about people getting blinded by your shiny melon your worried about people seeing through your sparse hair. We are all just stuck because nothing can produce adequate results for a full head of hair that looks like it hasn't even met whatever factors ultimately cause baldness. I hope Follica does better then nw2 diffuse but who knows.

 

[That Guy]

but just curious would you be content with a severely diffuse 1 or 2 Norwood?

I'd still want to be a non-diffusing NW1 or 2, but it's still preferable to NWs 3 - 7

Aesthetically, there is hardly a difference between norwoods 4 - 7 IMO, it all looks awful. So if you're Norwood 7, a treatment that will take you to a 5 at best isn't desirable, sure.

But a NW3 going back to 2 or a good hairpiece is a marked improvement. I believe if an aesthetically-superior option is available, one should take it.

As i read your post about the haircut i am guessing you have most of your hair still intact but you do still have this balding anxiety we all have otherwise you wouldn't be here am I correct in a sense?

It's all intact, save for what receded from the hairline.

I've said in the impact forum that I don't plan to hang around much longer. I know what is working for me, what I can do about it still, and what I can likely utilize in the near future. I'm running out of reasons to be here anymore.

I've said this before but I think this demonstrates it in my opinion hair loss is black and white all or nothing kind of deal being close to bald produces the same effects and just starting to thin out the self consciousness is all the same if your not worried about people getting blinded by your shiny melon your worried about people seeing through your sparse hair.

I'm vain as f***. I don't want to go bald because I don't want to be bald. If women preferred chrome domes, I still wouldn't allow it.

When I was a teenager, I wanted to impress this girl, but I couldn't face her because of this zit I had on my face. I got my sister and mom to use makeup (concealers etc.) on it to cover it up and they did an excellent job.

You can imagine how stressful that was, being a teenage boy already accused of being "girly" or even "gay" because of his long hair and feminine facial features (I was constantly mistaken for a girl) going to highschool wearing makeup; that's the belly of the fuckin' beast. The whole day went off without a hitch and nobody, not even the girls, noticed; if they did, they never said anything.

This experience, reflecting on it, taught me that at a certain point, you have to drop the worry of "social stigma" (transplants, pieces, medication) and man up to take the aesthetic option even if it makes you feel insecure, embarrassed, etc. because the end result is infinitely more satisfying than living in misery. I have no issues telling people IRL that I take meds for hairloss, my plans of getting a transplant, etc. If they don't like it, think it's "gay" or whatever, they can just go f*** themselves. They can go bald, be fat, etc. It won't affect me, but my action or lack thereof will.

If you want other people to think positively of you, you first have to stop caring about what they think at all and put your best interests first, without fear — and being bald is rarely in one's best interests.

 

[sunchyme1]

It's all intact, save for what receded from the hairline.

I've said in the impact forum that I don't plan to hang around much longer. I know what is working for me, what I can do about it still, and what I can likely utilize in the near future. I'm running out of reasons to be here anymore.

you gonna get a hair transplant if follica doesnt come out next year? or doesnt show good results?

you not worried about side effects showing up AFTER youve had a hair transplant and are forced to quit the drug?

 

[Christian Miller]

I'd still want to be a non-diffusing NW1 or 2, but it's still preferable to NWs 3 - 7

Aesthetically, there is hardly a difference between norwoods 4 - 7 IMO, it all looks awful. So if you're Norwood 7, a treatment that will take you to a 5 at best isn't desirable, sure.

But a NW3 going back to 2 or a good hairpiece is a marked improvement. I believe if an aesthetically-superior option is available, one should take it.



It's all intact, save for what receded from the hairline.

I've said in the impact forum that I don't plan to hang around much longer. I know what is working for me, what I can do about it still, and what I can likely utilize in the near future. I'm running out of reasons to be here anymore.



I'm vain as f***. I don't want to go bald because I don't want to be bald. If women preferred chrome domes, I still wouldn't allow it.

When I was a teenager, I wanted to impress this girl, but I couldn't face her because of this zit I had on my face. I got my sister and mom to use makeup (concealers etc.) on it to cover it up and they did an excellent job.

You can imagine how stressful that was, being a teenage boy already accused of being "girly" or even "gay" because of his long hair and feminine facial features (I was constantly mistaken for a girl) going to highschool wearing makeup; that's the belly of the fuckin' beast. The whole day went off without a hitch and nobody, not even the girls, noticed; if they did, they never said anything.

This experience, reflecting on it, taught me that at a certain point, you have to drop the worry of "social stigma" (transplants, pieces, medication) and man up to take the aesthetic option even if it makes you feel insecure, embarrassed, etc. because the end result is infinitely more satisfying than living in misery. I have no issues telling people IRL that I take meds for hairloss, my plans of getting a transplant, etc. If they don't like it, think it's "gay" or whatever, they can just go f*** themselves. They can go bald, be fat, etc. It won't affect me, but my action or lack thereof will.

If you want other people to think positively of you, you first have to stop caring about what they think at all and put your best interests first, without fear — and being bald is rarely in one's best interests.

Even if you are a great responder, there is no guarantee you will forever be.
To make matters worse, side effects might crop up in the near future.
What are you going to do about it then?

 

[H]

I'm vain as f***. I don't want to go bald because I don't want to be bald. If women preferred chrome domes, I still wouldn't allow it.

When I was a teenager, I wanted to impress this girl, but I couldn't face her because of this zit I had on my face. I got my sister and mom to use makeup (concealers etc.) on it to cover it up and they did an excellent job.

You can imagine how stressful that was, being a teenage boy already accused of being "girly" or even "gay" because of his long hair and feminine facial features (I was constantly mistaken for a girl) going to highschool wearing makeup; that's the belly of the fuckin' beast. The whole day went off without a hitch and nobody, not even the girls, noticed; if they did, they never said anything.

This experience, reflecting on it, taught me that at a certain point, you have to drop the worry of "social stigma" (transplants, pieces, medication) and man up to take the aesthetic option even if it makes you feel insecure, embarrassed, etc. because the end result is infinitely more satisfying than living in misery. I have no issues telling people IRL that I take meds for hairloss, my plans of getting a transplant, etc. If they don't like it, think it's "gay" or whatever, they can just go f*** themselves. They can go bald, be fat, etc. It won't affect me, but my action or lack thereof will.

If you want other people to think positively of you, you first have to stop caring about what they think at all and put your best interests first, without fear — and being bald is rarely in one's best interests

I agree whole heartedly with the last part of definitely recommend not giving 2 fucks what others think of you. It's all a matter of opinion whatever makes you the most comfortable is what you should do. When I started noticing my hair creeping back i didn't really think anything of it then I noticed it all thinning and got on minoxidil. After a year I was sitting outside in the sun and my aunt freaked out and said I had a bald spot when you looked close (I don't even have a bald spot yet it was just so diffused all over crown) I was already obsessing about it all the time "will someone see" "does it look like I'm thinning in this light" etc always aware always conscious someone might be able to tell and after she said that I went immediately into the house grabbed the razor 1 guard and buzzed it grabbed some snow goggles a black tank top with military boots and told everyone I was a Furion... jk I did not look the best but it took a weight off me. I wasn't always as self conscious about it anymore I wasn't balding I was just bald. I wasn't trying to hide anything dint have to adjust myself to not be noticed as thinning everyone just saw me as bald its like I fessed up to it. I can see where if your only very slightly diffusing and follica can give you back that couple hairs here and there that make you look thick again sure I could not see a reason not to do it but if it brings me back to diffuse a stage I've already been through that I know sucked even more then this I would pass. I know this isn't the same perspective for everyone but maybe everyone should try it that's noticeably diffuse, if anybody doesn't like it you can always grow that sparse hair back to where you were. Shaving my head doesn't mean I'm alright with hair loss I'd love my luscious locks back obviously im here but Im not the kind of guy to just settle. I'm not looking for something that give me some hair back I'm looking for the solution that gives me the hair I want back full density no fractions 100%. I'll have to wait longer perhaps but for me it's all or nothing I hated the halfway point. Btw my mom used to lend me her skin looking cream stuff for my acne all the time never thought anything of it lol

 

[Noble-OnHigh]

@That Guy brotzu is not included in your potential treatment?

 

[H]

@That Guy brotzu is not included in your potential treatment?

Lol

 

[hanginginthewire]

I agree whole heartedly with the last part of definitely recommend not giving 2 fucks what others think of you. It's all a matter of opinion whatever makes you the most comfortable is what you should do. When I started noticing my hair creeping back i didn't really think anything of it then I noticed it all thinning and got on minoxidil. After a year I was sitting outside in the sun and my aunt freaked out and said I had a bald spot when you looked close (I don't even have a bald spot yet it was just so diffused all over crown) I was already obsessing about it all the time "will someone see" "does it look like I'm thinning in this light" etc always aware always conscious someone might be able to tell and after she said that I went immediately into the house grabbed the razor 1 guard and buzzed it grabbed some snow goggles a black tank top with military boots and told everyone I was a Furion... jk I did not look the best but it took a weight off me. I wasn't always as self conscious about it anymore I wasn't balding I was just bald. I wasn't trying to hide anything dint have to adjust myself to not be noticed as thinning everyone just saw me as bald its like I fessed up to it. I can see where if your only very slightly diffusing and follica can give you back that couple hairs here and there that make you look thick again sure I could not see a reason not to do it but if it brings me back to diffuse a stage I've already been through that I know sucked even more then this I would pass. I know this isn't the same perspective for everyone but maybe everyone should try it that's noticeably diffuse, if anybody doesn't like it you can always grow that sparse hair back to where you were. Shaving my head doesn't mean I'm alright with hair loss I'd love my luscious locks back obviously im here but Im not the kind of guy to just settle. I'm not looking for something that give me some hair back I'm looking for the solution that gives me the hair I want back full density no fractions 100%. I'll have to wait longer perhaps but for me it's all or nothing I hated the halfway point. Btw my mom used to lend me her skin looking cream stuff for my acne all the time never thought anything of it lol

ThatGuy keeps saying that Follica will bring you back to SLIGHT diffusion that only a seasoned Norwood spotter would suss out, though. I'm not sure if that's been shown thru evidence or not however. The problem is - which spurred my initial post - is he seems to get annoyed by requests for assurance or proof of Follica's claims.

I feel that ThatGuy is early in his hair loss process and going through the stages of grief. Possibly vascilating between denial and anger. There's a subtext that he's different, that he's not like the rest of us, he doesn't really NEED to be here, cause he's not balding like rest of us. That's how it sometimes comes across anyway. That said his posts are really informative. I hope he continues to post until we get some more concrete news about upcoming, effective treatments. Until then, "one of us, one of us!"

 

[kj6723]

ThatGuy keeps saying that Follica will bring you back to SLIGHT diffusion that only a seasoned Norwood spotter would suss out, though. I'm not sure if that's been shown thru evidence or not however. The problem is - which spurred my initial post - is he seems to get annoyed by requests for assurance or proof of Follica's claims.

I feel that ThatGuy is early in his hair loss process and going through the stages of grief. Possibly vascilating between denial and anger. There's a subtext that he's different, that he's not like the rest of us, he doesn't really NEED to be here, cause he's not balding like rest of us. That's how it sometimes comes across anyway. That said his posts are really informative. I hope he continues to post until we get some more concrete news about upcoming, effective treatments. Until then, "one of us, one of us!"

So follica is supposed to bring back to like 25 grafts per cm^2, am I reading that correctly? That's really low. A decent transplant dense packing will be around 50 per cm^2, and that's just for the illusion of density

 

[sunchyme1]

So follica is supposed to bring back to like 25 grafts per cm^2, am I reading that correctly? That's really low. A decent transplant dense packing will be around 50 per cm^2, and that's just for the illusion of density

even if that is the case, you should be able to fill the rest in easy enough with a hair transplant right

 

[kj6723]

even if that is the case, you should be able to fill the rest in easy enough with a hair transplant right

True. I guess it's just another supplemental treatment in addition to whatever else you're using

 

[hanginginthewire]

I just keep hoping there's going to be some watershed info at the hair congress. Even if the treatment is five years out or whatever. Just to have that certainty that the nightmare will be over at some point, instead of living in this subhuman malaise. I bet Waiting for Godot was really a metaphor for baldites. Beckett was an Irishman, surely he knew what being imprisoned by hair loss was all about.

 

[H]

even if that is the case, you should be able to fill the rest in easy enough with a hair transplant right

No the typical human scalp has about 200 cm^2 full density. I guess the consences is that you need to lose 50% of that for you to look balding...I don't know that having half will look actually flattering but we'll just say it does if your close to a horseshoe or slick thats a 4th of what you need. You can get the other 75 from dense packing but with a limited supply of donor hair it would be a waste of resources. If your extremely lucky just starting to look diffuse I mean like the first day you notice and this 25 per cm^2 is a true deal definately hop on the Follica train grow those hairs and never make DHT EVER again!

 

[sunchyme1]

No the typical human scalp has about 200 cm^2 full density. I guess the consences is that you need to lose 50% of that for you to look balding...I don't know that having half will look actually flattering but we'll just say it does if your close to a horseshoe or slick thats a 4th of what you need. You can get the other 75 from dense packing but with a limited supply of donor hair it would be a waste of resources. If your extremely lucky just starting to look diffuse I mean like the first day you notice and this 25 per cm^2 is a true deal definately hop on the Follica train grow those hairs and never make DHT EVER again!

i would love to be fullhead, but even diffuse is fine.

this is what i dont ever want to look like

and this will be me in 10 years

i need these new treatments to work man

 

[H]

ThatGuy keeps saying that Follica will bring you back to SLIGHT diffusion that only a seasoned Norwood spotter would suss out, though. I'm not sure if that's been shown thru evidence or not however. The problem is - which spurred my initial post - is he seems to get annoyed by requests for assurance or proof of Follica's claims.

I feel that ThatGuy is early in his hair loss process and going through the stages of grief. Possibly vascilating between denial and anger. There's a subtext that he's different, that he's not like the rest of us, he doesn't really NEED to be here, cause he's not balding like rest of us. That's how it sometimes comes across anyway. That said his posts are really informative. I hope he continues to post until we get some more concrete news about upcoming, effective treatments. Until then, "one of us, one of us!"

So far the only thing that you can maybe say for sure is that it should be at least as good as the Dhurat study otherwise Follica hasn't given out any teasers. One of the photos was impressive with the jet black hair but some of the others while you can definitely see regrowth its not a full looking head of hair. They may have perfected the art and know a better method who knows like I said we have no info except like basically the name Follica Rain and now the patents which everyone has seen.

 

[H]

i would love to be fullhead, but even diffuse is fine.

this is what i dont ever want to look like

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and this will be me in 10 years

i need these new treatments to work man

Right there with ya brother.

 

[sunchyme1]

Are you serious, man?
Why are you dissing all those bald people?
Get your grip!
Not all bald people look decent, but most do.

he looks like a penis

 

[sunchyme1]

Fine.
Does Pep Guardiola look like a penis to you?
Bruce Willis? The Rock?
Especially the last two look way better without hair!

loooooool

yeah what about jason statham?

you forgot him too

 

[Trichosan]

Indeed.
I've been wondering. I have a lot of strong thick dark body hair (chest, legs etc.). Is FUE also possible as "Body Hair To Head Transplant"? Would be a shame to waste all those hairs.

Hey, Miguel, I was just wondering the same thing. I have a lot of pretty diverse hair on my arms that is straight and can get quite long. Great similarity to what's on my head. Have transplant surgeons used arm hair? Anyone?