Very Impressive Dermarolling And Minxodil Results - From Tressless

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Thanks for the explanation!
Is that what's called "Detumescence Therapy"?
Any idea of the success rate of this method?
Do you know if you get results and stop, will the hair gained from this be lost again?
How long have you been doing this?
Can you tell if this massage helped you so far?
Hey, man! It's no problem.
Yes, that's its official name! I don't know the exact success rate as I did not really look into that page, but if you buy the book and the video instructions, it appears to have a section dedicated to showcase success stories with HD evidence. However, I can tell you for sure that massaging is helpful for hair and that has been backed by science.
I got the instructions yesterday, so I can't tell you how helpful it's been for me. However, I have been massaging for a couple months prior to this and the itching is pretty much non-existent now and while I didn't shed much, I shed even less now.
I also follow a healthy diet and my hair loss is slow, so that probably has played its role.
Sorry for all the questions and thanks again :)
Anytime!
 

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Left picture is from 2 weeks ago. Right one is from today. Both after applying oils, in the same place and with the same lighting. What do you think?

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Even assuming that oils kickstarted regrowth from day 1 (which is not supported neither by specific studies nor by established knowledge on hair life cycles), the maximum length achievable in 2 weeks by a human is 7mm. The hair in both pictures appears to be longer.

I don't believe it is authentic.
 

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For those interested in massaging following the PerfectHairHealth method, here's a timer:
 
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Post second derminator session. Obviously not posting to show progress after 12 days but trying to be consistent with the documentation. Clipped the hair down to a 5 guard on top.

Post third session. Staying consistent. Clipped to a 5 yesterday on top. Not sure if anything is really happening yet but too early to tell. Have a great Sunday everyone!
 

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Hey, man! It's no problem.
Yes, that's its official name! I don't know the exact success rate as I did not really look into that page, but if you buy the book and the video instructions, it appears to have a section dedicated to showcase success stories with HD evidence. However, I can tell you for sure that massaging is helpful for hair and that has been backed by science.
I got the instructions yesterday, so I can't tell you how helpful it's been for me. However, I have been massaging for a couple months prior to this and the itching is pretty much non-existent now and while I didn't shed much, I shed even less now.
I also follow a healthy diet and my hair loss is slow, so that probably has played its role.
Anytime!
So you just started, I see.
Good luck. I found this if it helps.

I just thought of something. If the idea of the scalp massage is to loosen up the scalp and make it more flexible,
Doesn't that somehow contradict with the microneedling treatments?
Microneedling is also known as a treatment to tighten the skin.
Especially when doing so every week or every two weeks.
I wonder how this combination works together.
 

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(I think scalp massage is somehow related to needling, sorry if it's off topic)

Who is doing a scalp massage?
What is your regimen?
What are you based on? any proof (before/after pics) that it helps?
Hello I am doing scalp massages for like almost 1month but I am very irregular but still I try to do 40mins per day...I dont have any particular routine and I do whenever I feel like and then I am applying fenugreek water(optional) for 4-5days which makes my scalp feeling very good....I am a Nw1 unpatterned diffuse thinner and I can confidently say that after doing scalp massages I am definitely losing less hair...But from past 4-5days I am losing more due to not massaging for 3-4days staright(I guess)...I am currently focusing on my top part and I press very hard and knead for 20mins and there is definitely pain and tenderness and scalp is definitely looser than before(only loose in some extend)..I am currently not taking finasteride or minoxidil or dermarolling as I have a almost perfect nw1 hairline but still I lose hairs so I started scalp massaging and I know I will go bald anyhow if not taken any measure..(I will take big 3 if I I become bald to nw2).I will be adding magnesium oil and sulfur thiodulfates in the near future and also vitamin k2...And also absorbing sunlights for d3 or something(google it) for 10mins though I am not taking it now....I am now more focused on removing calcification from my scalp and body because this calcification block arteries and increases heart attack at a greater extent..It also causes joint pains...And also trying to figure out how to lower cortisol,prolactin and estrogen...
 

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So you just started, I see.
Good luck. I found this if it helps.

I just thought of something. If the idea of the scalp massage is to loosen up the scalp and make it more flexible,
Doesn't that somehow contradict with the microneedling treatments?
Microneedling is also known as a treatment to tighten the skin.
Especially when doing so every week or every two weeks.
I wonder how this combination works together.
Yeah. Best of luck to you, too.
I just posted that video a few minutes ago, haha.
The evidence we have of the possible outcome of a long term combination of these is Kitedude, who has been needling for 5 years in combination with scalp exercises. He filled his crown and has lowered his hairline considerably. There were pictures before showing his progress, but he took them down.
 

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Hello I am doing scalp massages for like almost 1month but I am very irregular but still I try to do 40mins per day...I dont have any particular routine and I do whenever I feel like and then I am applying fenugreek water(optional) for 4-5days which makes my scalp feeling very good....I am a Nw1 unpatterned diffuse thinner and I can confidently say that after doing scalp massages I am definitely losing less hair...But from past 4-5days I am losing more due to not massaging for 3-4days staright(I guess)...I am currently focusing on my top part and I press very hard and knead for 20mins and there is definitely pain and tenderness and scalp is definitely looser than before(only loose in some extend)..I am currently not taking finasteride or minoxidil or dermarolling as I have a almost perfect nw1 hairline but still I lose hairs so I started scalp massaging and I know I will go bald anyhow if not taken any measure..(I will take big 3 if I I become bald to nw2).I will be adding magnesium oil and sulfur thiodulfates in the near future and also vitamin k2...And also absorbing sunlights for d3 or something(google it) for 10mins though I am not taking it now....I am now more focused on removing calcification from my scalp and body because this calcification block arteries and increases heart attack at a greater extent..It also causes joint pains...And also trying to figure out how to lower cortisol,prolactin and estrogen...
Thanks for the input.
I read somewhere that a scalp massage can cause wrinkles if doing it the wrong way.
I know you're 18 but still, maybe you should pay attention to how you massage, since it's 40mins/day.
 

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@hairloss_user If you don't mind, I will keep your photos + a negative picture with your regimen in Google Drive. I'll try to do so for the other members so we will have a place where everyone can see all the results we got. If you want me to destroy your pictures, you can always tell me in private. I will do it without any question.

It looks like this:

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the negative pics dispel all doubt lol

they can't look at this and say it's just "longer hair"
 

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Guys who has itch a couple of days after needling? (long time age that I had itch, could be itch from healing process I imagine)

Try taking something like Loratadine, I take 1 before needling and I get no itch at all now.
 
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Ayr9

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Thanks for the input.
I read somewhere that a scalp massage can cause wrinkles if doing it the wrong way.
I know you're 18 but still, maybe you should pay attention to how you massage, since it's 40mins/day.
Man I really dont care about wrinkles or whatever...I want a full head of hair and I guess if I can keep it then nobody will be seeing it...And I guess when I will be grwoijg old,my hair will automatically start falling and will then calcify again up...Euqation is good blood flow+blocking dht in scalp=full head of hair
 

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But how does that combine with the fact that transplanted hair survives in previously bald areas?
I would say that it might have to do with the fact that, along with the hair follicle, they are also taking some surrounding tissue. Maybe this brings the ecosystem with it, and it is not as affected by the surrounding environment?
 

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@westonci was needling with 1.5m if I remember correctly. I wonder how much of his results were due to needling+PGE and how much was from seti.
I can say that after almost a year of Seti, I think it’s pretty much useless. Which means either I never got real Seti, was not a responder, or it just doesn’t work. I was the perfect case for it.
 

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Hello I am doing scalp massages for like almost 1month but I am very irregular but still I try to do 40mins per day...I dont have any particular routine and I do whenever I feel like and then I am applying fenugreek water(optional) for 4-5days which makes my scalp feeling very good....I am a Nw1 unpatterned diffuse thinner and I can confidently say that after doing scalp massages I am definitely losing less hair...But from past 4-5days I am losing more due to not massaging for 3-4days staright(I guess)...I am currently focusing on my top part and I press very hard and knead for 20mins and there is definitely pain and tenderness and scalp is definitely looser than before(only loose in some extend)..I am currently not taking finasteride or minoxidil or dermarolling as I have a almost perfect nw1 hairline but still I lose hairs so I started scalp massaging and I know I will go bald anyhow if not taken any measure..(I will take big 3 if I I become bald to nw2).I will be adding magnesium oil and sulfur thiodulfates in the near future and also vitamin k2...And also absorbing sunlights for d3 or something(google it) for 10mins though I am not taking it now....I am now more focused on removing calcification from my scalp and body because this calcification block arteries and increases heart attack at a greater extent..It also causes joint pains...And also trying to figure out how to lower cortisol,prolactin and estrogen...
I could be wrong but I think oral Vit d was more useful than just sunlight.
Do the Protocol I listed from evolutionary.org as when I first used it I know it stopped my scalp itch, and it’s being used to reverse aortic calcification ( don’t have link I’m on my phone)
It may be helpful to see an endocrinologist to control those hormones. If they don’t offer help you can google “estrogen herbs” for example for supplements to have an influence.
Boron helps you use mangesnium and Vitamin D while possibly lowering estrogen, for example.

It may be worth your money to get the perfect hair health.com ebook as he has video of his whole scalp massage regime
 
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