When you're in your 30's, you're finished

[Ourkes]

Yes hair situation 100%
also i'm naturally very ugly with bad genetics
I feel like i peaked with her / lucked out. As i have no / small social cirlce and was surprisd when an attractive girl matched me on an app then wanted a relationship with me.

I mean what are my chance happening again?

but in hindsight this girl was "trailer trash". Even being an incel like myself i found it hard to date such a slutty girl. Do you think i did the right thing not taking things further with her?

I just doubt ill get that chance ever again. It's been nearly 3 years and the girls ive been with since (few girls) have been terrible compared to her.

I think you definitely did the right thing bro. A girl like that would give you a life time of misery. You don’t need that.

I bet you are more handsome than you think, we are all our worst critic. You are not alone there. My friend had bad teeth never smiled, got then fixed mid 30s and now 40, smashing it. If your hair is the issue, explore transplants or hair system - do whatever you got to do to feel good again. There is no shame in that.

 

[Feelsbadman]

I think you definitely did the right thing bro. A girl like that would give you a life time of misery. You don’t need that.

I bet you are more handsome than you think, we are all our worst critique. You are not alone there. My friend had bad teeth never smiled, got then fixed mid 30s and now 40, smashing it. If your hair is the issue, explore transplants or hair system - do whatever you got to do to feel good again. There is no shame in that.

Thanks man. Yea this is my dilemma. I don't want to derail the thread maybe i should make a new one but everyone is sick of me.

Because i'm ugly and short a few years ago I did everything to "looksxmax" and try to become as good looking as possible. It worked, I was shocked about how much women at work wanted to talk to me. It really is a different world. Despite being awkward, weird women still wanted to talk to me and just approach me. Girls at work would always want to get lunch with me and talk to me.

I used dating apps and slept with a few girls. Then I met my ex girlfriend. She was
a) The most attractive girl i've been with and
b) I actually liked her (personality)

I was surprised she even matched me as prior to that, most of my matches were only average looking women.
She was trash as I explained but i ignored all her issues and red flags due to a) and b). It was ecstasy and so much fun having wild, loving sex with her. I felt like i was on drugs. I loved the girl (oh how stupid i was to fall in love with such a girl!).

Anyway she eventually cheated on me like i said, I know I dodged a bullet. I'm so lucky we didn't have a really long term relationship/babies/marriage.... But i was still very heart broken. Oh well. BUT.

i go back on dating apps.. but my luck is so much worse. My hair starts receding. My skin isn't the same as it used to be. I go out with some girls but they are ugly, fat, and terrible which makes me feel worse.

I feel like I lucked out and that was like once in a life time thing, hence my misery.

 

[vondoom]

is it over for me?

is over for everyone^^

i dont know, everyone just lives the best life he can, i guess...

 

[vondoom]

I lived that life, but maybe for a little too long!

its never enough! unfortunately less parties now...

 

[vondoom]

Thanks man. Yea this is my dilemma. I don't want to derail the thread maybe i should make a new one but everyone is sick of me.

Because i'm ugly and short a few years ago I did everything to "looksxmax" and try to become as good looking as possible. It worked, I was shocked about how much women at work wanted to talk to me. It really is a different world. Despite being awkward, weird women still wanted to talk to me and just approach me. Girls at work would always want to get lunch with me and talk to me.

I used dating apps and slept with a few girls. Then I met my ex girlfriend. She was
a) The most attractive girl i've been with and
b) I actually liked her (personality)

I was surprised she even matched me as prior to that, most of my matches were only average looking women.
She was trash as I explained but i ignored all her issues and red flags due to a) and b). It was ecstasy and so much fun having wild, loving sex with her. I felt like i was on drugs. I loved the girl (oh how stupid i was to fall in love with such a girl!).

Anyway she eventually cheated on me like i said, I know I dodged a bullet. I'm so lucky we didn't have a really long term relationship/babies/marriage.... But i was still very heart broken. Oh well. BUT.

i go back on dating apps.. but my luck is so much worse. My hair starts receding. My skin isn't the same as it used to be. I go out with some girls but they are ugly, fat, and terrible which makes me feel worse.

I feel like I lucked out and that was like once in a life time thing, hence my misery.

f*** dating apps... i tell you again: i have been on various apps for ten years, zero dates... in real life, if i start chatting with some woman, 99% i dont get rejected...

 

[Ourkes]

Thanks man. Yea this is my dilemma. I don't want to derail the thread maybe i should make a new one but everyone is sick of me.

Because i'm ugly and short a few years ago I did everything to "looksxmax" and try to become as good looking as possible. It worked, I was shocked about how much women at work wanted to talk to me. It really is a different world. Despite being awkward, weird women still wanted to talk to me and just approach me. Girls at work would always want to get lunch with me and talk to me.

I used dating apps and slept with a few girls. Then I met my ex girlfriend. She was
a) The most attractive girl i've been with and
b) I actually liked her (personality)

I was surprised she even matched me as prior to that, most of my matches were only average looking women.
She was trash as I explained but i ignored all her issues and red flags due to a) and b). It was ecstasy and so much fun having wild, loving sex with her. I felt like i was on drugs. I loved the girl (oh how stupid i was to fall in love with such a girl!).

Anyway she eventually cheated on me like i said, I know I dodged a bullet. I'm so lucky we didn't have a really long term relationship/babies/marriage.... But i was still very heart broken. Oh well. BUT.

i go back on dating apps.. but my luck is so much worse. My hair starts receding. My skin isn't the same as it used to be. I go out with some girls but they are ugly, fat, and terrible which makes me feel worse.

I feel like I lucked out and that was like once in a life time thing, hence my misery.

You’re welcome mate. I get that, you tasted something and it was so good, you became addicted. I’ve been there too with others things in life that can corrupt your senses, like money, you have none then you make a bit and live a different life and then you’re hooked. Listen, I was a cheating rotten prick in my 20s, used women repeatedly until I finally fell in love, but she left me because she could never feel relaxed whenever I was not there. I was heartbroken that my stupid selfish ways destroyed the relationship ( but I did fully deserve it ) and it took me a few years to completely get over her, so its natural for you to still feel this way.

But you’ve got to build yourself back up, for your own happiness. I completely changed my life, back in to education, new friends, new way of living etc - it worked. I put myself out of my comfort zone to change everything. If you keep doing same things, you get the same results.

Your skin can be sorted, you are still young. Your hair can be sorted, just take steps to get there - see a few transplant surgeons, enquire about hair system. You will feel a bit better just taking positive action. What Norwood are you?

 

[Feelsbadman]

You’re welcome mate. I get that, you tasted something and it was so good, you became addicted. I’ve been there too with others things in life that can corrupt your senses, like money, you have none then you make a bit and live a different life and then you’re hooked. Listen, I was a cheating rotten prick in my 20s, used women repeatedly until I finally fell in love, but she left me because she could never feel relaxed whenever I was not there. I was heartbroken that my stupid selfish ways destroyed the relationship ( but I did fully deserve it ) and it took me a few years to completely get over her, so its natural for you to still feel this way.

But you’ve got to build yourself back up, for your own happiness. I completely changed my life, back in to education, new friends, new way of living etc - it worked. I put myself out of my comfort zone to change everything. If you keep doing same things, you get the same results.

Your skin can be sorted, you are still young. Your hair can be sorted, just take steps to get there - see a few transplant surgeons, enquire about hair system. You will feel a bit better just taking positive action. What Norwood are you?

Thanks appreciate the advice, i just feel so crap feeling like I lost that and i'll never get it back i'm like a NW3-4 but finastteride is helping i think.
But yea i just feel like i'll never experience that super fun sex and all that i had with her again and it makes me feel miserable that i somehow "lost" that.

 

[OldnBald]

Jesus. I'm not going to be walking down anyways runways anytime soon, and I'm so old I practically have vultures flying overhead- and I still do just fine. In fact I turn down so many more than I bother to let in.

This mentality of woe is me is exactly why you have nothing going on in your dating life. It starts from your effort in looking good, all the way to your effort in interacting w women. bottom line.

 

[Ourkes]

Thanks appreciate the advice, i just feel so crap feeling like I lost that and i'll never get it back i'm like a NW3-4 but finastteride is helping i think.
But yea i just feel like i'll never experience that super fun sex and all that i had with her again and it makes me feel miserable that i somehow "lost" that.

Thanks appreciate the advice, i just feel so crap feeling like I lost that and i'll never get it back i'm like a NW3-4 but finastteride is helping i think.

But yea i just feel like i'll never experience that super fun sex and all that i had with her again and it makes me feel miserable that i somehow "lost" that.

My friend was NW4 late 20s, had a hair transplant. He is 40 this year, hair still solid.

You will get to have that fun again but only if you believe you can. step by step mate.

DM me pic of your hair and I’ll give you honest opinion.

 

[Feelsbadman]

Thanks appreciate the advice, i just feel so crap feeling like I lost that and i'll never get it back i'm like a NW3-4 but finastteride is helping i think.

My friend was NW4 late 20s, had a hair transplant. He is 40 this year, hair still solid.

You will get to have that fun again but only if you believe you can. step by step mate.

DM me pic of your hair and I’ll give you honest opinion.

thanks man but i dont see it happening? like where will i meet a girl like my ex?

 

[Ourkes]

thanks man but i dont see it happening? like where will i meet a girl like my ex?

You know, that is a question I used to ask myself. I got a bad rep with women on the social circuit so needed to change where I was looking.

Turns out the next girlfriend I met was in the queue to library I was enrolling at to start studying. I was your age then. We just got chatting. So you truly never know but you have to feel good about yourself to give off the vibe.

 

[Oknow]

i met my last gf off an app, i was suprised she agreed to go out as i've never been out with an attractive gil off an app, she was a 6/10 at besti n person
Huge sl*t but i fell in love with her she evetually cheated on me

i mean what did i expect? this girl had fucked 100 dudes had no self repsect, daddy issues, attention wh*** literlaly everythin you didn't want in a gf

but she was fun and i loved hanging with her and having all this porno fun sex ive never experienced

but that was a long time ago
nothign has come cloe to that its been years and im uglier.

i was seeing a girl like that, fun, porno sex but like your girl was a slapper

Didn’t trust her one bit, needless to say it ended after 6 weeks

you should have got out of that relationship whilst your stock value was high

 

[Ourkes]

i was seeing a girl like that, fun, porno sex but like your girl was a slapper

Didn’t trust her one bit, needless to say it ended after 6 weeks

you should have got out of that relationship whilst your stock value was high

Same. Turns out she was banging everyone else too.

 

[Feelsbadman]

i was seeing a girl like that, fun, porno sex but like your girl was a slapper

Didn’t trust her one bit, needless to say it ended after 6 weeks

you should have got out of that relationship whilst your stock value was high

and i'm the idiot who "Loved her"

lol oh well

 

[Ourkes]

and i'm the idiot who "Loved her"

lol oh well

We’ve all been there mate. Its easy to pulling in to something exciting, just got to be grateful you experienced the high but learn from the low.

 

[Feelsbadman]

We’ve all been there mate. Its easy to pulling in to something exciting, just got to be grateful you experienced the high but learn from the low.

yea true, sometimes i tihnk things could of worked out because last time i checked her social media she had a boyfriend but now i never check t because i know it hurts me
but there's no way u can have relationships with girls like that right?

 

[Ourkes]

yea true, sometimes i tihnk things could of worked out because last time i checked her social media she had a boyfriend but now i never check t because i know it hurts me
but there's no way u can have relationships with girls like that right?

In my view no, leads to years of abject misery. Imagine she got pregnant? I have always taken the view, would rather be my own man than the ‘play thing’ of someone else. You had a lucky escape. Remember, social media is false reality - the most toxic couples I know look like loved up teenagers on social media.

 

[Feelsbadman]

In my view no, leads to years of abject misery. Imagine she got pregnant? I have always taken the view, would rather be my own man than the ‘play thing’ of someone else. You had a lucky escape. Remember, social media is false reality - the most toxic couples I know look like loved up teenagers on social media.

yea very very true
She was a lose canon, hence why she was so fun, so up and down, may have had soom personaltiy disorder wanted to hmarry me and have kids with me and have this crazy sex then would get angry and upset with me suchc a fun rollercoaster..
she thought she was pregant a few times

i often get sad and think i wish i had more sex and explorede more things with her but imagine i got her pregnant? not worth it long term..

thanks u guys have helped me mentally sometimes more than my psychologist

 

[Ourkes]

yea very very true
She was a lose canon, hence why she was so fun, so up and down, may have had soom personaltiy disorder wanted to hmarry me and have kids with me and have this crazy sex then would get angry and upset with me suchc a fun rollercoaster..
she thought she was pregant a few times

i often get sad and think i wish i had more sex and explorede more things with her but imagine i got her pregnant? not worth it long term..

thanks u guys have helped me mentally sometimes more than my psychologist

You’re welcome mate, very pleased to help, even if just a bit. That’s what our purpose as humans is, try help one another.

when you’re feeling low, don’t forget we all experience heart break / loss / difficult circs. I was one of the guys you call ‘chad’, but Ive grown up now and have a completely different outlook. However, I still have had some incredibly miserable times and different hardships in life, really bad things - some days i could not face getting out of bed, but you got to push on a find new ways to live and appreciate life

all the best brother

 

[Feelsbadman]

You’re welcome mate, very pleased to help, even if just a bit. That’s what our purpose as humans is, try help one another.

when you’re feeling low, don’t forget we all experience heart break / loss / difficult circs. I was one of the guys you call ‘chad’, but Ive grown up now and have a completely different outlook. However, I still have had some incredibly miserable times and different hardships in life, really bad things - some days i could not face getting out of bed, but you got to push on a find new ways to live and appreciate life

all the best brother

also i don't have much money is this bad? i'm 27 with barely nothing