When you're in your 30's, you're finished

[Norwoodcel]

You also need to have the confidence to create opportunities, he doesn’t

you reap what you sow

people on here attribute my success to hair forgetting that I have the confidence to really put myself out there

it sounds like my hair loss is similar to his , yet opposite results

Are you from the UK or other western country?

When you "pull" is it real life.. as in cold approaching?

 

[Oknow]

Are you from the UK or other western country?

When you "pull" is it real life.. as in cold approaching?

UK
use apps

 

[doubleindemnity]

I’m 42 and would not give up where I am now to be young again and I had an incredible time in my 20s, but my life is overall more satisfying now. I do hear what you’re saying about balding negatively impacting a persons life and understand your perspective. Hair is very important to you. If you are not a candidate for a transplant how about a system or SMP? My friend, a white male, had SMP in London at 34/35 and his dating life improved hugely, now married to a beautiful and successful women. Correct me if I’m wrong, but are you of a non white ethnicity? If you have tanned or brown skin perhaps SMP could be an excellent route for you to frame your face?

As I said to Feelsbadman, if you want a honest opinion DM me a photo of your hair and I’ll provide unbiased feedback.

I will message you. SMP has never been a viable solution for me. Firstly, you have to shave your head every few days. That's inconvenient but it also means that you only have the choice of shaved head as your hairstyle. People on here have told me that I suit the shaved head. And people that I meet for the first time are generally not Norwood aware so they don't necessarily know that I shave my head because I'm a diffuse NW6; they just think that I like the look. And since my natural hairline is very faintly visible, maybe I am actually pulling that off. But the fact is that it's not working for me. Even a NW1 guy who has to keep a no guard or half guard haircut is likely to experience the same stuff that myself and @Feelsbadman are experiencing. So SMP will not work for me.

 

[Ourkes]

I will message you. SMP has never been a viable solution for me. Firstly, you have to shave your head every few days. That's inconvenient but it also means that you only have the choice of shaved head as your hairstyle. People on here have told me that I suit the shaved head. And people that I meet for the first time are generally not Norwood aware so they don't necessarily know that I shave my head because I'm a diffuse NW6; they just think that I like the look. And since my natural hairline is very faintly visible, maybe I am actually pulling that off. But the fact is that it's not working for me. Even a NW1 guy who has to keep a no guard or half guard haircut is likely to experience the same stuff that myself and @Feelsbadman are experiencing. So SMP will not work for me.

Maybe system or hair transplant then bud, however I do appreciate the latter can be difficult with high Norwood.

If you message I will give honest opinion.

 

[whatintheworld]

He said he’s a NW2

No, I meant for you, how do you know how much of a factor your hair has (or doesn't have?)

You could try shaving your head, it will grow back of course, and put pictures of yourself with a shaved head on the apps you use, and see your results.

Covid permitting if bars are open, you can try going to bars as well like that.

 

[Oknow]

No, I meant for you, how do you know how much of a factor your hair has (or doesn't have?)

You could try shaving your head, it will grow back of course, and put pictures of yourself with a shaved head on the apps you use, and see your results.

Covid permitting if bars are open, you can try going to bars as well like that.

I don’t need to do that to know dating will be harder

but like anything in life it’s not impossible, otherwise all bald guys would be single

 

[doubleindemnity]

I don’t need to do that to know dating will be harder

but like anything in life it’s not impossible, otherwise all bald guys would be single

Majority of bald guys are or they met their spouse before baldness. If you shaved your head, I think that you'd go to no responses or matches on the online services and effectively ruin your account's internal score. Your cold approaches would fall flat and your confidence and mindset would be so ruined that you wouldn't be able to look people in the eyes. Baldness isn't life on hard mode ; it's a preview of death.

 

[Oknow]

Majority of bald guys are or they met their spouse before baldness. If you shaved your head, I think that you'd go to no responses or matches on the online services and effectively ruin your account's internal score. Your cold approaches would fall flat and your confidence and mindset would be so ruined that you wouldn't be able to look people in the eyes. Baldness isn't life on hard mode ; it's a preview of death.

That’s not true
My brother is bald and he met someone whilst bald

You also met someone recently from an app, living proof of it not being impossible just harder!

 

[Feelsbadman]

woke up today and feel a lot bettr thanks for the advice yesterday
therapists help but therapists dont understand the modern dating world of tinder so its hard for them to really quite grasp it

 

[Oknow]

I’m 42 and would not give up where I am now to be young again and I had an incredible time in my 20s, but my life is overall more satisfying now. I do hear what you’re saying about balding negatively impacting a persons life and understand your perspective. Hair is very important to you. If you are not a candidate for a transplant how about a system or SMP? My friend, a white male, had SMP in London at 34/35 and his dating life improved hugely, now married to a beautiful and successful women. Correct me if I’m wrong, but are you of a non white ethnicity? If you have tanned or brown skin perhaps SMP could be an excellent route for you to frame your face?

As I said to Feelsbadman, if you want a honest opinion DM me a photo of your hair and I’ll provide unbiased feedback.

SMP is weird, what happens if she rubs her hand on the head and can't feel any hair?

 

[Ourkes]

SMP is weird, what happens if she rubs her hand on the head and can't feel any hair?

Good point. I have never ever thought of that. Not sure how you tackle that one!

 

[Diffused_confidence]

woke up today and feel a lot bettr thanks for the advice yesterday
therapists help but therapists dont understand the modern dating world of tinder so its hard for them to really quite grasp it

Show me your hair loss and I'll give my 2 cents.

 

[vondoom]

no

She will cheat on you once they get bored or insecure and start looking elseware

the girl I was seeing left me for another guy once she started feeling insecure in the relationship

thank god it never became serious or I had kids with her

insecure, or too secure^^

 

[vondoom]

the more i read on this forum, the more i would really like to know what you people are doing... it is not impossible to get a gf...
stop hoping for p**rn sex and young love and sh*t when both is not available and maybe even reset your expectations to zero...
if you are using apps, see if you can get something out of it until bars are opening up again (apparently apps are your only choices atm) and if it doesnt help anything, stop wasting your time there...
doesnt help and only makes you feel worse...
and use the time you got because of covid for something better maybe...

 

[Feelsbadman]

Guys how do you stop feeling like youre not good enough for agf when ur below average face hair and height?

 

[DoctorHouse]

Guys how do you stop feeling like youre not good enough for agf when ur below average face hair and height?

There are other ways to make up for that. Just think real "hard" and "big" and try to "come" up with something really good about yourself.

 

[Feelsbadman]

There are other ways to make up for that. Just think real "hard" and "big" and try to "come" up with something really good about yourself.

No seriously, i guess this is why i endeed up hving a relationship with a complete c*m dumpster/trash tier women because felt lik i'll never do btter

every time i go out and see a couple where the women is some wwhat attractive the guy always has better hir than me, or taller, or better facially etc.

I jut feel like i'm not "boyfriend/husband material" because of how look.

It makes sense now, my ex was the female version of me, would get jealous of other women, extremely insecure, etc. Trash tier.

 

[DoctorHouse]

No seriously, i guess this is why i endeed up hving a relationship with a complete c*m dumpster/trash tier women because felt lik i'll never do btter

every time i go out and see a couple where the women is some wwhat attractive the guy always has better hir than me, or taller, or better facially etc.

I jut feel like i'm not "boyfriend/husband material" because of how look.

It makes sense now, my ex was the female version of me, would get jealous of other women, extremely insecure, etc. Trash tier.

Have you ever shown your photos to anyone here and they said you were ugly? There are plenty more women like your ex, so if you want one just like her, keep looking. If your dog dies, you just get a new one. You need something to fill the void. Plenty of lonely women like your ex out there.

 

[czecha]

With hair and height, you can work your way to success with the stuff like dressing well, interacting well, being in shape etc. Those options aren't available for a bald guy. Remember also that the rich get richer. Bald guys' skills there inevitably decay away while average guys' skills improve because they are able to practice them. The gap between bald and average becomes larger.

And for the last time if a guy is above average in height, above average in hair loss and average everywhere else then he must be mathematically above average. That's where I would put you.

1. have hair (Norwood 2.5 max)
2. dont be manlet (5‘10 plus but preferably taller)
3. don’t have a fucked face, 5/10 is enough
4. don’t be framecel

 

[DoctorHouse]

1. have hair (Norwood 2.5 max)
2. dont be manlet (5‘10 plus but preferably taller)
3. don’t have a fucked face, 5/10 is enough
4. don’t be framecel

5. must like all @czecha posts and threads and cope