Would you date a bald girl?

[hellouser]

The LOLs and caps lock words are making you look desperate and scrambling, it's not properly satirising my point to just keep repeating yourself. And showing the bull**** ways Rodrigo or wikihow's use the word incorrectly isn't helping to prove anything either, it doesn't add to anything.

You can use assertive in the instance of approaching someone sure, "certainty" covers the bases of decision making; which is confidence in yourself, in speaking to someone; certainty of what you're saying and how you're expressing your point, and the game winning point- certainty in your abilities. You have used a word to properly define how confidence is used in terms of personally talking to someone, well done, you have proven my point except given a less concise definition. It isn't incorrect, just less concise.

It's not just expression (as in, not mumbling) but more importantly it's the content of what you're saying, in getting across clearly what your intentions are and why you're there in the first place. You can keep going LOLWTFISTHAT?! but you know rightly what I'm saying, and you can keep stubbornly playing dumb but the definitions are very clear at this point.

I know what you're trying to say but I have no idea what any of it means since every response is another vague and ambiguous definition of confidence. Even dictionaries suggest that confidence is not vague:

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/confidence

It all comes down to trust/belief and those things do NOT come out of nowhere like you suggest, they are BUILT ON EXPERIENCE. Therefor again, it is a byproduct of predictability.

Don't complicate things.

 

[lickawrist]

If Scarlet Johanssen was bald, Id still smash.

 

[Rudiger]

I never intended to suggest that it comes from nowhere, I said earlier you do have to know what you're about in order to speak with certainty or you come off as being full of ****. There's some groundwork to be done, you can't fake it. As for being built on experience, that's why guys "build confidence", there's no doubt a guy who's tried to chat up 1000 women will do better than the exact same guy who's never walked up to a woman before.

I'm not trying to complicate things, it's just that things are complicated, and you try to over-simplify it. How does that dictionary suggest confidence is not vague? There's 8 ****ing definitions, all completely different, how many do you need?

If your definition was the 9th, it would be the worst. It is so close to meaningless I don't even know how you can possibly put it under the umbrella of what "confidence" means. Your definition is overly simple in terms of success, stats, predictability, it's more of a corporate term, it has nothing to do with attitude or belief, which the rest of the world identifies as "confidence". If you want to live by your own definition then fine, reject what the rest of the world is saying, but don't act so shocked when our definition is different to your little interpretation which absolutely nobody else uses in the same way you do.

 

[hellouser]

I never intended to suggest that it comes from nowhere, I said earlier you do have to know what you're about in order to speak with certainty or you come off as being full of ****. There's some groundwork to be done, you can't fake it. As for being built on experience, that's why guys "build confidence", there's no doubt a guy who's tried to chat up 1000 women will do better than the exact same guy who's never walked up to a woman before.

I'm not trying to complicate things, it's just that things are complicated, and you try to over-simplify it. How does that dictionary suggest confidence is not vague? There's 8 ****ing definitions, all completely different, how many do you need?

If your definition was the 9th, it would be the worst. It is so close to meaningless I don't even know how you can possibly put it under the umbrella of what "confidence" means. Your definition is overly simple in terms of success, stats, predictability, it's more of a corporate term, it has nothing to do with attitude or belief, which the rest of the world identifies as "confidence". If you want to live by your own definition then fine, reject what the rest of the world is saying, but don't act so shocked when our definition is different to your little interpretation which absolutely nobody else uses in the same way you do.

Well, it is possible for everyone to be wrong, you know?

 

[Rudiger]

If I wasn't 100% certain of being right about something I definitely wouldn't choose to write like this:

The simplest answer is usually the right one. Simply put:

CONFIDENCE IS A BYPRODUCT OF PREDICTABILITY.

Period.

I mean I admire your confidence and all but I explained what the word means to me because I'm not 100% clear on it (but still making a lot more sense than you are), and in truth there's a LOT of words (ie "belief") that we can pick apart to **** and get nowhere on. Confidence for some reason is one you have a personal vendetta against, because it's so over-used in baldness circles, PUA, etc but it's silly that just because you can pick it apart, you think you can define it with your little buzz-phrase.

Neh.

 

[hellouser]

If I wasn't 100% certain of being right about something I definitely wouldn't choose to write like this:



I mean I admire your confidence and all but I explained what the word means to me because I'm not 100% clear on it (but still making a lot more sense than you are), and in truth there's a LOT of words (ie "belief") that we can pick apart to **** and get nowhere on. Confidence for some reason is one you have a personal vendetta against, because it's so over-used in baldness circles, PUA, etc but it's silly that just because you can pick it apart, you think you can define it with your little buzz-phrase.

Neh.

That there is proof that you admit that your definition of it is different from others which echoes what I said earlier about everyone have a different definition... if we're going to use the word confidence in any form, there needs to be consistency. But there's none at all and the pattern that easily identifiable is that everyone uses it as a 'feel good' word rather than anything else SPECIFICALLY.

However, my definition isn't a 'buzz phrase'... 'Just be confident' is the buzz phrase.

 

[Rudiger]

I said from my first post on defining it what it is "for me" because, like I've said many times not, ~like a lot of words~, it has many forms and meanings in which it can be used. What you are saying, is that either it has 1 form, or it can't be used at all, and that's simply not true, as much as you want it to be. You want to disband all words that have more than one meaning? Because we'd be left with very little.

Just be confident is a buzz phrase, just like yours, but "just be confident" actually carries some form of weight and meaning to it. Yours is a business term that you are applying to interpersonal relationships, it makes no ****ing sense in how you're using it. With "just be confident" it means exactly what you know it means, speak clearly, be concise, don't waste time being someone else or billing yourself as something you aren't, etc.

Just because a word or phrase pisses you off in how it's used regularly, doesn't mean it makes no sense and shouldn't be used.

 

[parisienne]

Since I'm an hetero girl I'll just adapt the original question to my case and reformulate it as "would you date a bald(ing) guy ?"
The answer is yes, if there is some chemestry and if I'm attracted (but that two points apply to everyone anyway). An additional reason would be that he knows what it's like, and unless he's like my dad who never gave a single **** about his own hair loss (way too busy, plus he had the right features to pull it out), he would not overlook how ****ed up it is.

Plus there would be much experimental topical cooking sessions and let's admit that it's more exciting than ****ing omelettes :

 

[I.D WALKER]

Parisienne, I bet it would be a creative blast jamming with you. Whether the setting finds you by the counter hunched over a cutting board or rummaging through the spice cupboards in search of palatial culinary perfection or formulating some strange hair growth brew down inside the subterranean recesses of your alchemy lab.
-)

 

[yetti]

Sorry, I can't get through every word of the walls of text here (but h.l., right on.)

But let me quickly lay out what you are missing. First let's get your nonsense arguments about the precise definition of confidence out of the way, and just fully accept the one you like:

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/confidence

It all comes down to trust/belief and those things do NOT come out of nowhere like you suggest, they are BUILT ON EXPERIENCE. Therefor again, it is a byproduct of predictability.

OK, no problem, sure, that's absoutely fine. Good definition.

What you are sadly missing is that what goes on in one's head in irrelevant here. In short, "be confident" and "act confident" are one and the same as far as the effect in the real world. You seem to be suggesting that the advice is poor because true confidence comes from predictability. I don't agree in all cases but let's say you're 100% right. So what? We are talking about a girl getting a date, or getting a job. That's the intended result of the "confidence" advice, achieving a result. Getting something done, in the real world. Do you think every single presidential candidate is actually confident that he or she will win the election? No of course not. So why do all of them unendingly express confidence that they will win? Because they are actually confident that they'll win? No, it's because they are not whiners who only know how to say "I don't have a chance and this sucks", and they know how absolutely unattractive and what a path to failure that is. People are attracted to what APPEARS to be confidence. Who cares if it's real or not?

OK so on the topic of this thread. There are 2 bald girls in a bar and a cute guy is reading a book at a table, alone. Both girls have no confidence that they can get the guy. In reality, they are equally unconfident. One girl stands in place staring at her drink and eventually goes home. The other girl walks up to the guy and says with a big (fake, because she's nervous) smile, "hey! I read that book last year, but it was a used copy and was missing the start of chapter 2. Um, what happens at the start of chapter 2"?

Which girl do you think has a better chance of getting the guy? In a job interview, which (actually unconfident) guy has a better chance of getting the job, the one who says with a smile "I'm confident I can do this", or the one who says "I don't know..."?

Your definition (and indeed the definition) of confidence is : beliefinoneselfandone'spowersorabilities;self-confidence;self-reliance;assurance:

The appearance of belief in onself is attractive to others. Who cares if it's real or not? We are talking about a person achieving a result, not what's going on in his or her head, LOL.

 

[Roberto_72]

Sorry, mate. But I couldn't date a girl who's into animals.

Ha ha!
Not native speaker!

 

[clowns on stilts]

Most definitely.

Assuming all the other requisite traits were in place.

 

[Rudiger]

Sorry, I can't get through every word of the walls of text here (but h.l., right on.)

But let me quickly lay out what you are missing. First let's get your nonsense arguments about the precise definition of confidence out of the way

I'm gonna stop this here, I don't have a nonsense argument about the precise definition of confidence because if you actually had read what was going on then you'd know my main argument was that there is no precise definition of the word, and that's what grumpy ol' hellouser can't wrap his head around. This word tickles him the wrong way so he wants to simplify a word that can't be simplified, because like many words, it has many uses and definitions.

What I attempted to describe was the definition of "confidence" and explain why it is necessary in the ways he refuses to understand, I did not attempt to define a word with many ambiguous definitions.

That is all.

 

[yetti]

I'm gonna stop this here, I don't have a nonsense argument about the precise definition of confidence because if you actually had read what was going on then you'd know my main argument was that there is no precise definition of the word, and that's what grumpy ol' hellouser can't wrap his head around. This word tickles him the wrong way so he wants to simplify a word that can't be simplified, because like many words, it has many uses and definitions.

What I attempted to describe was the definition of "confidence" and explain why it is necessary in the ways he refuses to understand, I did not attempt to define a word with many ambiguous definitions.

That is all.

Dude I wasn't talking about you, and the "right on" at the beginning of my post was directed at you, in other words, "right on, I agree with you". My point was that hellouser was arguing with you (us) about the definition of "confidence", and that's not the point. We know what the word means, we aren't 3 years old. What's nonsense is bringing fatal diseases into a thread about "would you date a bald girl" and quibbling about the precision of a definition rather than discussing the topic, which is "would you date a bald girl" - and connecting ideas like, why might you date her? Nothing you said was nonsense, your posts were most excellent. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

It's unfortunate that sarcasm, defeatism and negativity always enter these threads and turn them into sad and angry debates rather than constructive conversations.

 

[Rudiger]

Yeah I understood the right on and thanks for agreeing I suppose, but I have no idea what this thread is about. I walked in half way through.

But you did say we're arguing about the absolute definition of the word and I'm saying I am not attempting to do that, I like your post overall.

 

[yetti]

Yeah I understood the right on and thanks for agreeing I suppose, but I have no idea what this thread is about. I walked in half way through.

But you did say we're arguing about the absolute definition of the word and I'm saying I am not attempting to do that, I like your post overall.

Right, I am also not attempting to do that. Only he is. For some reason. Let his definition stand, whatever. I like your posts too.

My point is simply that you've got to be in it to win it. Confidence can be faked, and what the difference if it's fake or real if it attracts people? So who cares if CONFIDENCE IS A BYPRODUCT OF PREDICTABILITY or not. LOL. Fake it, ask someone out, say that you're confident that you can do the job at the job interview, and see what happens. Run for office and tell the world that you're confident that you'll win, whether or not you are. Or sit at home and mope.

 

[CopeForLife]

Only if she would projecting confidence through her baldness.

Lol, no - it is repulsive especially on woman.

They could wear wigs without much hassle as men do, but anyway it sucks.

 

[FWIW]

Since I'm an hetero girl I'll just adapt the original question to my case and reformulate it as "would you date a bald(ing) guy ?"
The answer is yes, if there is some chemestry and if I'm attracted (but that two points apply to everyone anyway). An additional reason would be that he knows what it's like, and unless he's like my dad who never gave a single **** about his own hair loss (way too busy, plus he had the right features to pull it out), he would not overlook how ****ed up it is.

Plus there would be much experimental topical cooking sessions and let's admit that it's more exciting than ****ing omelettes :

Yeah, almost every girl publicly says she would but the chemistry has to be there,but point is bald head will destroy the chemistry With 99 percent men.Its not chemistry anyway,just looks. I would like to see 1 single woman would say no to Bradd Pitt in his prime because there was no chemistry. Looks= chemistry

 

[swingline747]

Yeah, almost every girl publicly says she would but the chemistry has to be there,but point is bald head will destroy the chemistry With 99 percent men.Its not chemistry anyway,just looks. I would like to see 1 single woman would say no to Bradd Pitt in his prime because there was no chemistry. Looks= chemistry

The chemistry thing is bull. How are you going to work that chemistry if they wont give you two seconds of their busy day to charm and swoon them.
Unless you are being introduced through friends there is no way.
The fact a women is saying "as long as there is chemistry" is saying as long as even WITH hairloss he is a 9 then MAYBE.
If he is a regular guy with male pattern baldness he doesnt have a shot in hell unless the girl is simply looking for a sugar daddy to support her picket fence fantasy and shes pretty much done with sexual interest in life. Or shes got 2 kids from 2 different guys and no one else will touch her.

chemistry means as long as you look like THIS

you "MAY" have a chance.

 

[resu]

That's true, many women even "hot" ones aren't into sex, it was a surprise to me but it explains why some of them don't have a boyfriend even in their 30's. When you see a really good looking chick with a guy that's not even close to being in her league you may start to wonder if he's getting anything other than a glorified trophy.