"Manipulate" that is so f*****g condescending too. You act as if they are kids without a lengthy sexual history like 95% of 17-18 year old girls. The best one I fucked initiated sexually before I did and asked me to eat pie off her tits when she accidentally dripped it on herself when we were sitting in a parking lot in town. I don't know what you even mean by "comic relief" but they aren't going to get a better root elsewhere from a faggoty 17 year old guy, or f*** a young guy who is still relatively successful like myself.