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[Xander94]

There are more good-looking women out there than good-looking men and the reason is because women in general actually care about looking nice. Most dudes, at any given age, are complete slobs that look like every other overweight

There are alot of attractive phenotypes for women and very few for men.

 

[Dante92]

Yeah, I think it's obvious that men have to work harder to be attractive than the average woman does, but that's good news for any guy who is actually willing to put in the work.

Any guy who has the potential to improve and get results. Slight, but important correction. Unfortunately I'm not among them.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

I'm late to the party as usual but in response to the OP.

Yeah, I think it's obvious that men have to work harder to be attractive than the average woman does, but that's good news for any guy who is actually willing to put in the work. Anyway,

I disagree that most women have gone to sh*t by age 25; not sure if it's location-dependent or what, but it has always been my observation that a high number of hot women who were hot when they were younger, are also hot and often hotter in their 30s into 40s as they've lost the "baby face" they usually had before. Though if modern pornography truly reflects contemporary (fairly disturbing) tastes, jailbait seems to be modern man's preference.
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A lot of women gain weight as they age.

Also, most women have kids, and the majority of the women who have kids gain wait (anywhere from 10lbs to 100lbs).

I think this is half the battle when we discuss the depreciating commodity that is female beauty.

Having said all that: a lot of men also go to sh*t in their 30s as well.

 

[Patrick_Bateman]

I'm late to the party as usual but in response to the OP.

Yeah, I think it's obvious that men have to work harder to be attractive than the average woman does, but that's good news for any guy who is actually willing to put in the work. Anyway,

I disagree that most women have gone to sh*t by age 25; not sure if it's location-dependent or what, but it has always been my observation that a high number of hot women who were hot when they were younger, are also hot and often hotter in their 30s into 40s as they've lost the "baby face" they usually had before. Though if modern pornography truly reflects contemporary (fairly disturbing) tastes, jailbait seems to be modern man's preference.

There are more good-looking women out there than good-looking men and the reason is because women in general actually care about looking nice. Most dudes, at any given age, are complete slobs that look like every other overweight "average joe #3564712" with the same lame, short haircut they haven't washed in days, T-shirt and ripped jeans and patchy five o'clock shadow.

Walk through a mall, or pass women on the street on their way to work in the morning and you should be able to see that the average woman, even if she's not "hot" or "attractive" to you, still has nicer clothes, better hair and hygiene than most of her male peers and she probably even wears some makeup — which can do amazing things in the hands of a skilled user.

I don't know where you live or how old you are. But saying that most guys at any given age is a complete slob is a gigantic cope. In Scandinavian university cities guys in their late teens to late twenties are 6ft with a full head of hair and goes to the gym regularily. People look at you weirdly if you don't go to the gym and focus on eating healthy.

If you go to a club in these type of cities you'll get mogged into next week. 6ft minimum, sleeve tattoos,huge framed roidmaxxed fullheads left right and centre.

Lol at being in a club as a balding guy in your twenties. Literally asking to have your confidence get shredded to pieces.

 

[Xander94]

I don't know where you live or how old you are. But saying that most guys at any given age is a complete slob is a gigantic cope. In Scandinavian university cities guys in their late teens to late twenties are 6ft with a full head of hair and goes to the gym regularily. People look at you weirdly if you don't go to the gym and focus on eating healthy.

If you go to a club in these type of cities you'll get mogged into next week. 6ft minimum, sleeve tattoos,huge framed roidmaxxed fullheads left right and centre.

Lol at being in a club as a balding guy in your twenties. Literally asking to have your confidence get shredded to pieces.

the guy doesnt know the scandinavian struggles

 

[hairblues]

I don't know where you live or how old you are. But saying that most guys at any given age is a complete slob is a gigantic cope. In Scandinavian university cities guys in their late teens to late twenties are 6ft with a full head of hair and goes to the gym regularily. People look at you weirdly if you don't go to the gym and focus on eating healthy.

If you go to a club in these type of cities you'll get mogged into next week. 6ft minimum, sleeve tattoos,huge framed roidmaxxed fullheads left right and centre.

Lol at being in a club as a balding guy in your twenties. Literally asking to have your confidence get shredded to pieces.

He did write it could be geographical.

 

[hairblues]

That's one way of putting it.

I hope you understand what I mean..your posts here are about MANY subjects not just your frustrations with something you feel you can't change...sometimes you talk about that but it's not every post on every thread.
I think xander has to develop other interests otherwise it almost starting to sound like extreme self obsession.
I mean he needs to talk about a movie a band a video game sports travel anything else besides women and looks. I mean he can talk about what he wants but I mean in lieu of other posters not giving up on him he needs to focus on some other areas. For himself too.

 

[Xander94]

I hope you understand what I mean..your posts here are about MANY subjects not just your frustrations with something you feel you can't change...sometimes you talk about that but it's not every post on every thread.
I think xander has to develop other interests otherwise it almost starting to sound like extreme self obsession.
I mean he needs to talk about a movie a band a video game sports travel anything else besides women and looks. I mean he can talk about what he wants but I mean in lieu of other posters not giving up on him he needs to focus on some other areas. For himself too.

I wasn't always like this.
I became like this when I realized that no matter what I do it will all boil down to FACE looks frame height and those are fixed you can't change those.

Thats why I only talk about this because it's the only thing that matters in my opinion to women.

Unless they get to know you for months etc. and you are statusmaxxed ofcourse there are other variables aswell.

But main variable for entry level game with women is face

 

[Dontwannabeabetabob]

OP are you a LDAR currycel?

 

[Xander94]

OP are you a LDAR currycel?

lmao no

 

[hairblues]

I wasn't always like this.
I became like this when I realized that no matter what I do it will all boil down to FACE looks frame height and those are fixed you can't change those.

Thats why I only talk about this because it's the only thing that matters in my opinion to women.

Unless they get to know you for months etc. and you are statusmaxxed ofcourse there are other variables aswell.

But main variable for entry level game with women is face

You have frame and height you have face.

You are lacking some experience and social skills..

Your pics on tinder wont work for whatever reason in your region @Bklyn_23 is telling you he has a similar experience here but in person he does okay...most men I have met raised in Brooklyn have a kind of swagger though and approach women they find attractive they have good social skills because you grow up socially with people, older guys/gals teach you stuff about opposite sex.
You don't have this kind of social skill where you live.
Its not your fault it is probably cultural and something you learn socializing growing up.
people skills.

 

[Dontwannabeabetabob]

lmao no

Then there's hope my friend. How many cels can you check?

 

[Medina]

OP are you a LDAR currycel?

What the hell do these things mean

 

[Xander94]

Then there's hope my friend. How many cels can you check?

Eyecel,birdcel,haircel,averagejoecel

 

[davesmith420]

0 matches on Tinder? How picky are you with who you swipe right on? I'm an okay looking guy (probably a 7 at max) but I have managed to get 300+ matches in 5 months; I basically swipe right on any girl that isn't obese or a 1/10.

Feel free to DM me your profile; I can help you out.

 

[Xander94]

Neckcel aswell

 

[Dontwannabeabetabob]

Eyecel,birdcel,haircel,averagejoecel

Currycel is death, your cels are temporary unless you're N5>cel.

 

[Dontwannabeabetabob]

I'm a heightcel but I can still pull. At least my hair is coming back almost fullhead.

 

[Patrick_Bateman]

0 matches on Tinder? How picky are you with who you swipe right on? I'm an okay looking guy (probably a 7 at max) but I have managed to get 300+ matches in 5 months; I basically swipe right on any girl that isn't obese or a 1/10.

Feel free to DM me your profile; I can help you out.

Do you get IOI's in real life? I don't have the courage to sign up on Tinder to get the ounce of confidence that I have destroyed. In real life it's like I'm wearing the invisibility cloak from Harry Potter.

 

[hairblues]

I'm a heightcel but I can still pull. At least my hair is coming back almost fullhead.

Thats cool..just from finasteride?