This Whole Thing Reminds Me Of Racism And Discrimination

[CaptainForehead]

Not 'you' ... I mean the universal 'you' but I really mean David as that is what he wrote.

Any particular reason why you quoted @sunchyme1 rather than David, the real person who you were responding to?

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Ah, yes. The unbiased media. LOL Hundreds of children get killed by drones under Obama, nobody panics. All part of the plan.

Someone dies in bombardments when Trump is president.

That .gif from the Dark Knight is one of the most iconic of the past ten years of Hollywood films. It works because it's true. Though The Joker is portrayed in popular culture as pure evil, the fact is he kind of makes some sense. That's why he's a great villain. He's evil, but with a substantial kernel of truth.

Christopher Nolan is such a brilliant director, I love the whole directing of that scene. Notice that the Joker is dressed up as a fake beautiful woman. It's a perversion of a beautiful woman. And in that scene, he is completing his seduction of Harvey Dent into evil. Once Harvey the White Knight agrees to the possibility of killing the Joker with the coin toss as the Dark Knight would not, his descent into evil is complete. Imagery of sexual seduction in a scene of ideological seduction.

The best Hollywood villains always have a kernel of truth to them, see also the xenomorph from Alien (a rape metaphor) and the Terminator.

 

[CaptainForehead]

That .gif from the Dark Knight is one of the most iconic of the past ten years of Hollywood films.

Also that clap scene. Heath was brilliant in that movie.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Thanks, I will have to spend significant effort improving my oral skills. Maybe get some voice/speech coaching.

This focusing on writing on HairLossTalk.com and other forums has had a positive effect in my professional life (which involves some amount of writing). Prose flows better and with lesser effort. And it has been noticed. I'm sure @hairblues, even though a writer, believes style is not that important, but there is a halo effect involving writing and speaking too. I see it. People being viewed positively just because they can bullshit better.

Still, I do not have the fluidity of Zircon/Buckthorn or you. I need to read more books as a first step towards further improvement.

I find zircon and wolf pack to be the best writers on the forum, myself.

On the issue of style vs substance -- there is no dichotomy, as it should really be substance and style mutually reinforcing one another. If one is perpetually chosen over the other, you will likely end up stunting both.

Clear writing contributes to clear thinking. The greatest winner of all when you write a concise and cogent post is not necessarily the audience -- it's yourself. There is a lot of evidence that the potential of human reason, in the absence of writing, is actually fairly limited. It's the codification of ideas, and of thought, that allows deeper, broader, and more complex thoughts. With writing, people can develop complex and interesting stories such as The Dark Knight, multiples ones throughout their lives. In mathematics, there is an emphasis placed on the proper use of symbols to communicate.

I started putting more effort into my writing early in college. I realized I wasn't as good as I believed myself to be, so I focused on going over my writing, rethinking my ideas. Circling back to the first point, the best thinkers are not those who are constantly criticizing others, but rather those who constantly self-critique, who ask themselves if they're really sure about what they're saying, who review and adjust their words accordingly.

For whatever it's worth, I think you have a clear "voice", which is the most important thing. I also find you easy to read.

 

[hairblues]

Any particular reason why you quoted @sunchyme1 rather than David, the real person who you were responding to?

Because the context--Sunchyme commented on my post to David so i explained to him

I think its very clear and not evasive in the least, if this is what you are trying to imply.

 

[CaptainForehead]

I find zircon and wolf pack to be the best writers on the forum, myself.

On the issue of style vs substance -- there is no dichotomy, as it should really be substance and style mutually reinforcing one another. If one is perpetually chosen over the other, you will likely end up stunting both.

Clear writing contributes to clear thinking. The greatest winner of all when you write a concise and cogent post is not necessarily the audience -- it's yourself. There is a lot of evidence that the potential of human reason, in the absence of writing, is actually fairly limited. It's the codification of ideas, and of thought, that allows deeper, broader, and more complex thoughts. With writing, people can develop complex and interesting stories such as The Dark Knight, multiples ones throughout their lives. In mathematics, there is an emphasis placed on the proper use of symbols to communicate.

I started putting more effort into my writing early in college. I realized I wasn't as good as I believed myself to be, so I focused on going over my writing, rethinking my ideas. Circling back to the first point, the best thinkers are not those who are constantly criticizing others, but rather those who constantly self-critique, who ask themselves if they're really sure about what they're saying, who review and adjust their words accordingly.

For whatever it's worth, I think you have a clear "voice", which is the most important thing. I also find you easy to read.

I'm with you on clear writing. However, I've come to view language as a tool with which to manipulate people. Oftentimes it is very subtle, complex structures employed to get around mental defenses, to appear as if something significant has been said, to appear smarter, to control people's emotions.

I think you are pretty much immune to these things as you think very logically, but most people are not like that.

I have clarity, but I find I'm lacking in fluidity. It is a nebulous concept, but if you read my posts, you'll see it (especially when comparing to Zircon/Wolfpack/Buckthorn)

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

I'm with you on clear writing. However, I've come to view language as a tool with which to manipulate people. Oftentimes it is very subtle, complex structures employed to get around mental defenses, to appear as if something significant has been said, to appear smarter, to control people's emotions.

I think you are pretty much immune to these things as you think very logically, but most people are not like that.

I have clarity, but I find I'm lacking in fluidity. It is a nebulous concept, but if you read my posts, you'll see it (especially when comparing to Zircon/Wolfpack/Buckthorn)

Language can also be a weapon. I don't see it as a major issue on this forum, but it shows up a lot in other contexts, for example in how the mainstream media describe things, and in the "subtle" passive aggressive behaviour of a lot of people in real life.

 

[Rudiger]

I'm with you on clear writing. However, I've come to view language as a tool with which to manipulate people. Oftentimes it is very subtle, complex structures employed to get around mental defenses, to appear as if something significant has been said, to appear smarter, to control people's emotions.

I think you are pretty much immune to these things as you think very logically, but most people are not like that.

This speaks to me in terms of getting the balance right, in getting your logic across clearly it does involve manipulation on some level for people to understand what you're expressing. I fail at times (and most people do) in trying to understand my own logic when it comes to particular issues that are hard to find a definitive stance on, so you attempt to express it and as you say, make it appear as something very significant, when in reality it may not be, you're just trying to dig out the significance of it yourself, as you go along.

 

[Xander94]

Im American hurr durr greatest country in the world dudes!!!!

 

[pjhair]

Christopher Nolan is such a brilliant director, I love the whole directing of that scene.

Nolan is my favorite director. I find him superior to every other director out there. His story telling is simply amazing. The Dark Knight is my number one favorite movie of all time. The only mistake Nolan ever made was to suggest that incompetent Snyder direct Man of Steel. Snyder has no idea how to tell a good story. He turned DCU into a sh*t fest.

 

[hairblues]

Im American hurr durr greatest country in the world dudes!!!!

I live in NY, thats the greatest country in the world.
Can give two shits about the rest of the republic.

 

[Xander94]

I live in NY, thats the greatest country in the world

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Nolan is my favorite director. I find him superior to every other director out there. His story telling is simply amazing. The Dark Knight is my number one favorite movie of all time. The only mistake Nolan ever made was to suggest that incompetent Snyder direct Man of Steel. Snyder has no idea how to tell a good story. He turned DCU into a sh*t fest.

Nolan is among the great active directors.

Zack Snyder is not, but he believes himself to be.

 

[hairblues]

Keep laughing chuckles..Meanwhile in NY you would be getting laid,,In Dutch land? seems not so much.

 

[yetti]

I don't like Christopher Nolan as a director. I find watching his Batman movies is like the experience of watching ice... I don't sense a soul in any characters and the movies are completely humorless. Two and a half hours of pounding music/chases/fighting mixed with breathless "this is the most important conversation in the history of the world" dialogue. Boring. Testosterone fest.

I don't see any comparison between what GWB did, which was start a war based on lies that completely destabilized the middle east and killed hundreds of thousands of people and remains completely out of control to this day, and Obama, which was an attempt to deal with the ramifications of it.

I do agree that the media get excited by war and were way too excited by the strike a week or so ago, we're entering really dangerous territory.

 

[pjhair]

I don't like Christopher Nolan as a director. I find watching his Batman movies is like the experience of watching ice... I don't sense a soul in any characters and the movies are completely humorless. Two and a half hours of pounding music/chases/fighting mixed with breathless "this is the most important conversation in the history of the world" dialogue. Boring. Testosterone fest.

I don't see any comparison between what GWB did, which was start a war based on lies that completely destabilized the middle east and killed hundreds of thousands of people and remains completely out of control to this day, and Obama, which was an attempt to deal with the ramifications of it.

I do agree that the media get excited by war and were way too excited by the strike a week or so ago, we're entering really dangerous territory.

Well, you are in a tiny minority. Overwhelming majority of critics and audience (94%) liked The Dark Knight. Anyway, his Batman movies are not the only reason I am his fan. If you watch his other movies such as Prestige and Memento you will see that he has amazing knack of easily telling complex stories with a great finesse. I absolutely love his style of story telling and the kind of movies he makes.

 

[hairblues]

I don't like Christopher Nolan as a director. I find watching his Batman movies is like the experience of watching ice... I don't sense a soul in any characters and the movies are completely humorless. Two and a half hours of pounding music/chases/fighting mixed with breathless "this is the most important conversation in the history of the world" dialogue. Boring. Testosterone fest.

I don't see any comparison between what GWB did, which was start a war based on lies that completely destabilized the middle east and killed hundreds of thousands of people and remains completely out of control to this day, and Obama, which was an attempt to deal with the ramifications of it.

I do agree that the media get excited by war and were way too excited by the strike a week or so ago, we're entering really dangerous territory.

Memento was really unique if you never saw that one. It's small budget, clever.

I actually cringed when i saw W pimping his book of portraits of soldiers who survived Iraq war--I mean how do these guys/women even look at him now knowing what they did to manipulate that unnecessary war.

 

[Xander94]

Keep laughing chuckles..Meanwhile in NY you would be getting laid,,In Dutch land? seems not so much.

Dutch is Holland LuL different country. I am pretty sure with my retarded social skills I wouldnt get laid anywhere.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Dutch is Holland LuL different country. I am pretty sure with my retarded social skills I wouldnt get laid anywhere.

I wonder what fraction of Americans don't know the difference between Dutch and Dane, or that Germany is also Deutschland, in German.

 

[hairblues]

Dutch is Holland LuL different country. I am pretty sure with my retarded social skills I wouldnt get laid anywhere.

No sh*t. it was a joke. Something I guess is lost on Aspie peeps.

You would indeed get laid.

You would go to bar or lounge by yourself have a beer get lost in music of some DJ and some hot chicks would dance with you and you would touch them and you would go home and get laid because your good looking enough to get laid in NY and you dont have to have don juan social skills.